Lance, I'd be real careful in using any kind of lubricate, other than graffit in "specific" areas when stringing a piano (i.e: new strings, tuning pins, bridge pins, etc.) in a rebuild situation. However, I have hear of and seen some techs use just a faction of a drop of Protech on areas where the string crosses the V-bar, pressure bar, etc. ( I'd use a piece of piano wire "dipped" in the Protect, then lightly touching the area to tranfer the lube to the point where you want it.) Go real easy here. Another "trick" you can try, and THIS works when there are slightly rusty strings involved, in doing a pitch raise when you don't want to break strings. Before you start the tuning, take a "tuning pin" setter and a hammer and give each and every tuning pin one good "whack" (not trying to drive it deeper) and you'll find that this will help "lossen" up some "sticky" strings to points of contact where they don't want to move easily across the friction points. Believe it or not, this really does work. It's been proven. But, now ... On the other hand, I would try improving your hammer usage and blow technique to the point where you set the "bottom of the pin" to where you think it should be, do a 2-3 (one right after the other = quickly) test blows, and using the hammer in a parallel-to-the-strings configuation (handle pointing toward the "round" of the piano tail), lightly in a see-saw motion (lightly, I said) move the string to pitch (or if a unison, to the middle string) and give it several more hard test blows to "set" the sting all up and down, from tuning pin to hitching pin. IF you hold the string pressure in the hammer while hitting your test blows, you'll find the string will "stay" and the pitch will not move. I have found that a very light "tapping" of the hammer when setting the string right at the same instant you test-blow the key, will put a tremedous "force" (so to speak) through the whole string at that instant the hammer hits the sting, causing it to adjust, or move - if you will - , the whole lenght of the string. It literally will equal the tention thru the whole lenght of the string, setting it to a sability that will amaze you. I mean, once you have it "set" using this method, it will NOT move, I don't care how hard or how many times you pound on the key. It literally stabalizes the whole string. Now, be sure to do this first on the middle string ( one side or the other when tuning the Tenor-single wound strings) to make sure that string is set solid and will not move no matter what. If aural tuning, then, as you pull your strip mute(s), tune the left string (L) to the middle first, then with the SHIFT pedal down (yes, we are moving the hammer over to the right), tune the Right (R) string to the middle string, but in this case don't use quite the force setting the unions as the middle string, but do use enough force, and with the "tapping" force just as the hammer BLOW hits the string, to "equalize" the string from hitch-pin to tuning-pin. This is much more fun when using an ETD. It's like a video game, and I'm trying to stop the lights to win a $1000 dollars on the new game show, " Please The Customer " !! F.Y.I. = WIM, this is what I was talking about in use for your string stabilzation method for concert tunings. It works !!! It really does. Like I said, Wim, we'll go over this at K.C. when i see you. This is the method we use in tuning all the pianos at this institution. The faculty has come to enjoy our tunings because they don't have to worry about a string, or unison, going out when playing hard, pounding pieces. However, I do agree with thoughs of you who have said that after a point, some pieces become "less" musical from all the heavy playing. But, then again, I call it "job security." If the pianos never went out of tune, then I'd be out of a job, wouldn't we all ?? Ha ! **grins-grins.** In closeing, Lance, I'd use "any" lube as a last resort. Try the tuning method I just describe. (Free of charge). You "might" find that ole BB come alive and start "paying attention to ya !! " I hope this helps, Lance (& all of you). If not, well, I could have been tuning. (which I'm off to do.) I just had to help my good ole Lousiana friend. My best to all. Dan Tassin, RPT Piano Technician Michigan State Univ. E.Lansing, MI. tassin@MSU.edu " Life is a bowl of cherrys, only if you live in the jar." Annon. ========================================================= llafargue writes: > I have a few customers with M&H BB's and I find them relatively > difficult to tune because of the steep angle of the strings at > capo/duplex areas. They're just not fun and I don't think a couple of > them stay in tune as well as they should. Do any of you lube this area > with good affect and if so, what do you use? Thanks. > > Lance Lafargue, RPT > LAFARGUE PIANOS > New Orleans Chapter, PTG > 985.72P.IANO > llafargue@charter.net > www.lafarguepianos.com > >
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