This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Thanks, Mark. If the proposal gets approved, I'll be in touch. Barbara Richmond PS Any pictures? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Cramer=20 To: College and University Technicians=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:33 PM Subject: RE: [CAUT] DC system on stage Barbara, Bill, Sorry Bill, I'm not a big fan of the carts either.=20 They are removed from the piano at precisely the time I don't want = "anything" changing around the piano.=20 We do use them in Banff, but only in the Rolston Recital Hall, and = only (I believe) because this is one hall where ambient conditions are = indeed monitored and controlled.=20 I've encountered mold in only one instance Bill (sorry to hear of your = experiences); a new-to-me client with an 1970's L: the tank was plugged = directly into the wall... as in bypass the humidistat! (need I say = more?)=20 I'm not sure of the material Bill refers to Barbara, but the cloth = Dampp-Chaser's under-covers are made from will not absorb sound, they're = acoustic grille cloth. For all practical purposes: acoustic impact =3D = zero. So I will vote for an installed system with undercover.=20 The first benefit being to buffer the piano's climate from changes and = high air-movement within the hall. =20 =20 The second really, is to nicely hide the installation. Even if there = is the odd wrinkle or bulge in the cloth, from the front row the = underside of the piano looks like a "sea of black." We've installed a few Barbara, so if I can provide any install tips; = cramer@brandonu.ca Meanwhile, something the two of you (and others?) may be interested in = as well: I've just installed an "un-plug" alarm in one of our ensemble rooms. Un-plug the piano, and a concealed beeper sounds until the piano is = plugged back in.=20 So far so good. I've posted instructions (that even music students can = read), the piano has been moved, and the "movee" figured out the = "prompt" immediately. Sorry I cannot provide mechanical details, as one of our engineers = devised it. Basically it's a relay with a 9v batter and a pulse beeper.=20 best regards to you both, Mark Cramer, Brandon University =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf Of = Bdshull@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:03 PM To: caut@ptg.org Subject: Re: [CAUT] DC system on stage Hi, Barbara,=20 My experience with buckets tight up to the soundboard is that the = board discolors, mold develops, and condensation causes hardwood floors = to betray water overhead.....Don't ask me how I know...but shortly after = that nasty experience several years ago Damppchaser extended the hanger = length considerably. =20 A cover under the piano will certainly affect the reflection of = sound...but there are probably folks on the list who could tell you how = much, in their own experience....I'm interested too! =20 Just to go with my "cart" idea again....the cart can be kept under = the piano on stage, and removed just for performances, of course.... OR....the piano can be equipped with heater bars and humidistat, and = the cart only with humidifiers, and used as much as possible. =20 Bill Shull In a message dated 9/13/2005 1:20:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, = piano57@insightbb.com writes: Thanks, Bill. Hmm....my goal was a system that could always be plugged in (there = are a lot of outlets on that black stage floor), to avoid the syndrome = of nice-atmosphere-while-in-storage and then all heck breaks out when = it's moved on stage. You know what I mean? Barbara Richmond ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bdshull@aol.com=20 To: caut@ptg.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [CAUT] DC system on stage In a message dated 9/13/2005 12:59:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, = piano57@insightbb.com writes: Hi all, Does anyone have a picture of, or could direct me to a picture = of a Steinway D with a full DC system with undercover--preferably on a = stage? I have submitted a proposal for the DC system, but a friend = pointed out to me, that sometimes, because the humidifier buckets hang = down a bit, the piano looks.........pregnant. I doubt my technical = director would be happy with such a look and would like him to see it = before hand. Thanks much. Barbara Richmond, RPT Barbara, If you could forego the undercover, you could modify = the Jahn stands which Dampp-chaser is experimenting with. They are = single system carts with a leg on each corner, and need to be combined = into a dual system stand which straddles the truck; I did this during = the summer, and will be sending Roger Wheelock the modification drawings = when I "get it together." =20 Bill Shull ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/63/20/4b/83/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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