I agree David. Using partial ratios for this kind of discussion makes things much easier to relate to. One gets very specific real quick. Cheers RicB This discussion of wide and narrow stretch is difficult using plain English. Frankly RCT stretch numbers are to me just as obscure. We can discuss particulars in terms of partial ratios (4:2, 8:4 etc.) and that is a little more revealing. Or if one at least has an ETD of some kind we can talk of the stretch of C8 in numbers. For example in tuning a Steinway "D" my C8 ends up at 43.92 cents and on a "B" 34.76 cents. That means something to me. I've heard of people using a stretch that gets to 75 cents at C8 and that seems pretty s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-d to me. Revealing where C8 ends up might make this a little clearer. dave
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