Hi Marcel.. Hmmm.. no these piano were not Chinese... just your run-of-the-mill Baldwin Hamiltons, Sohmers, Wurlitzers...you know.... studio uprights that haven't been tuned in a kazillion years..nothing like what you had today.. Good news that you got this thing tuned up. And yeah- I'll bet you gave your anti-perspirant a chance to proove itself! Cheers! :) Michelle On Jan 9, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Marcel Carey wrote: > Hello Michelle, > > I just did a chinese import this afternoon. The piano had been > delivered > in the crate last may. There were still some kind of paper pattern > stuck > to the bass struts and the paper was touching some bass strings. WOW, > what a sound. > > Now I would like to ask you if the string breakage you experience is > with these chinese imports. The reason I ask is that this particular > piano scared me. The first tenor strings had so much angle up from the > V-bar that they just didn't want to move. I thought of your post and I > had a lot of cranking up before the pitch actually started to > change. I > didn't measure the angle, but it looked like 30 or more degrees. > > I was lucky, nothing broke but the piano was a beast to bring back to > pitch and tune. The pins were tight and springy. Not fun but the > pay is > good. But it upsets me that some store send pianos in crates with NO > PREPARATION whatsoever. > > Marcel Carey, RPT > Sherbrooke, QC > >> >> >> Hi folks- >> >> Happy New Year! >> >> :D >> >> It happens more often than I'd like (and once is enough to be >> honest) and while I "feel" that it's not my lovely hammer >> technique ;) , maybe it's something to do with some sort of >> "string thing".. >> >> Has anyone else run across this? >> (Or maybe a PTG article I have overlooked?) >> >> Upon visiting a fairly new piano and finding it dreadfully >> flat (50 cents or more) , I carefully yet quickly, raise it >> up at least half of what it was. And I do have a (good?) >> habit of initially moving the pin in the flat direction >> before moving it sharp in order to loosen any friction from >> any rust or whatever that may have accumulated. Just a >> *quick* jerk to the left- nothing serious at all. >> >> Now.. having raised the piano up (with a second pass to at >> least get it up to pitch) I start doing a "fine tuning". >> >> it is either at this second pass or my fine tuning where >> strings start to break. In the usual places too- nothing out >> of the ordinary. >> >> (Am I doing "too many tunings" (up to 3 times) to raise this >> completely up? Seems like that wouldn't be an issue, >> especially if it's new(er)? Have I introduced some sort of >> unusual friction/heat or something?? >> >> >> Now this doesn't happen all of the time, but I am acutely >> aware that it could and I wonder if there's something in my >> technique or my sequence of pitch raising that makes these >> newer strings break. (I could understand some strings >> breaking if the piano was older..) >> >> I know tuners who on the first go, bring the whole piano up >> tp pitch but I've always been a little leary of that. I'm >> wondering if they also have strings break on their second >> pass/ fine tuning.. >> >> I fully realize that they (the strings) are now at different >> spots on all of the contact and termination points so I would >> assume that would add to the puzzle. And I'd like to also add >> that it seems that the tork alone on this 1/2 way-to-pitch, >> pitch raised piano feels MUCH higher than it did before (and >> more than "normal") and I chalk that up to the higher tension >> I have just introduced. >> >> I am a jerk tuner. >> >> (Stop laughing :) >> >> I would be VERY interested in viewing the number of passes >> you folks do to bring a piano up to pitch and whether or not >> you've experienced this-especially on ones that aren't so old. >> >> Hope this post reads OK- and I look forward to your responses! >> >> :) >> Michelle >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
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