Hi Richard, There are two points you raised I would like to respond to. Second one first: Since it is not PTG that teaches classes at conventions and the like, but member technicians, the ability of a given instructor to reach those in attendance varies quite a bit. Just like with players of musical instruments, doing and teaching are two separate things: People are usually better at one than the other. It has been my experience that PTG functions typically feature many instructors who are highly accomplished technicians AND excellent teachers. Not all, mind you, but enough to keep me busy learning for several days, anyway. One of the challenges of teaching at a PTG function is the "one-room school house" effect. The range of experience of the people most instructors face runs from total beginner to seasoned veteran. Lately, some classes have started being geared more to one group or the other in recognition of this dilemma, which can be so frustrating all the way around. The "school of hard knocks" type of experience you refer to is, I think, more about seat of the pants problem solving. There actually ARE comprehensive classes on subjects like dampers (Davenport's, the Rappaports' and Karen Robinson's all come immediately to mind--there are others, too). It's all about benefiting from other people's experience sorting out the problems we normally encounter. I think that CAUT work should require as wide a range and as high a level of technical ability as possible (and be compensated accordingly!!!). To me, the elusive part, the part that can be discussed, but ultimately not taught, is how to keep so many plates twirling in the air at the same time. The demands of the situation, magnified by the desire to make things better; having hundreds of hands to hold simultaneously; handling training and supervising others while doing your own work, and then being interrupted; doing a solid job of taking responsibility for everything in your job description--and then some--while being able to clearly draw a line to keep yourself from being sucked into things that are "not your table;" dealing with the constraints of in adequate budgets; the politics...THESE are the things that distinguish CAUT work in my mind and are ultimately going to be learned only through experience and survival in a particular situation. Whew! Alan Eder -----Original Message----- From: rwest1 at unl.edu To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org> Sent: Fri, Oct 19 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [CAUT] CAUT Endorsement (was Re: Job Opening, U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor) ...as I expanded my knowledge, I realized that repairs aren't always a simple symptom/solution question. Dampers are a good example of what I mean. You have a ringing damper, but a plethora of possible solutions including ones that don't even have anything to do with the actual damper you're working on (sympathetic vibrations or a duplex length of string). But with perseverance you figure out where the problem lies and learn what to look for. This becomes an experienced based repair that you add to your mental data bank .Experience gives you a bag of "tricks" to draw from to help diagnose problems, but these tricks of the trade aren't compiled and written down and so it's hard for beginners to get what they need to know, without going through the school of hard knocks. ...Perhaps the greatest challenge is getting through to people. That means we need to know how people learn so that our materials reach them. I don't know that PTG has been particularly good at addressing this aspect of learning. Richard West ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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