[CAUT] CAUT credential vs. academic program?

Paul T Williams pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu
Wed Oct 31 05:42:26 MST 2007


I agree with you Wim. 

 I have had many different experiences prior to becoming a tech.  I 
changed majors 3 times in college; engineering, then business, then 
graduated with a BS in Political Science.  Also had piano lessons for 12 
years, played bass for 30 years in various bands from rock to jazz, All 
these things I have found useful in the college setting with the wide 
array of folks I deal with day to day.  It's nice to know what they're 
talking about, but you can't "require" such a diversity of learning for 
being a CAUT.  It just helps a bunch.  When interviewing with Steve Brady 
prior to my apprenticeship with him, I remember him stating that all his 
students know how to play the piano so we can tell when a piano feels 
good/sounds good in a musical way.  I guess I assumed all techs played the 
piano.  A lot do, and very well at that, but I was shocked in the "real 
world" that there are many techs who can barely play a C-chord!  How can 
one converse with a musician if you don't speak musically?  As to making 
it a requirement, I'm still undecided...basic knowledge of music should be 
in there to some degree...

Happy Halloween!

Paul




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From: Jeff Tanner <jtanner at mozart.sc.edu>
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Sent: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 9:33 am
Subject: Re: [CAUT] CAUT credential vs. academic program?


On Oct 30, 2007, at 4:55 AM, Richard Brekne wrote:

Just how much music education should such a position demand ?... and for 
that matter how much music education should techs in general have ?

Cheers
RicB

My thinking is that someone can easily learn more outside of formal 
education, whether it be music, business, science, mathematics, 
literature, or piano tuning and repair.  Some people are just born with 
inclinations towards certain skills and abilities, while others who have 
to be formally instructed never achieve the same ability levels.  So, are 
we talking about "education" as a formality? or education as in applicable 
knowledge and skill?  Which is more important?

The older I get and the more life I experience, the more I am inclined to 
believe the formal education process is highly overrated (and much the 
source of some of our societal problems, but that is another subject for 
another day).

Jeff


Jeff Tanner, RPT
University of South Carolina


Although having a experience, no matter what kind, is important, should a 
CAUT have some formal education, music or otherwise, beyond high school? 
If one is to work in a college environment, how important is it to have 
some idea of what "life" is like in a college setting?  I felt that with a 
MS, I was able to communicate better with the students and the professors. 
More or less "talk" their language. Comments?

Wim

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