[CAUT] Abel aelect Vs. Rosner-Wurtzen

[Nancy Salmon]

I've avidly followed this thread. I use Ronsen myself and have been well
pleased. I'll certainly try some others.
My question is this: you are all talking about a relatively expensive part
and highly skilled/priced labor for trial & error experimentation. How do
work this out with the customer; what if you or the customer doesn't like
them? You now have a used/new set of hammers.
Nancy Salmon RPT
Frostburg State University
MD

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:40 AM, David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
wrote:

> It depends on the piano and what the customer wants.  I've changed many
> sets
> of Abel and Renner hammers off older Steinways where no amount of needling
> was going to achieve the tone that the customer wanted and put on Bacon
> Felt
> hammers that were darn near perfect after some shaping and polishing.  So
> my
> conclusion and experience is considerably different than yours and I
> encourage people to sample different types of hammers and see for
> themselves.  I think they'll find that the one hammer suits all is what's
> "overdriven" here.
>
> David Love
> davidlovepianos at comcast.net
> www.davidlovepianos.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of
> Richard Brekne
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:07 AM
> To: caut at ptg.org
> Subject: [CAUT] Abel aelect Vs. Rosner-Wurtzen
>
> Hi
>
> I think really that your post goes to show that just about any reasonbly
> made hammer can work quite well in just about any piano.  I'm coming
> more and more to the conclusion that very much of the to do about
> differerent hammer types is quite overdriven.  To be sure, a hammer can
> be made so as to be impossible, or nearly so, to work up any real
> elasticity...  and you do have the real qualitative difference between
> hammers meant to be needled and those meant for addition of lacquer.
> But that said if you have a decently made set in front of you, you can
> get them to work.  Some may require a bit more work then others... some
> not.
>
> With regard to hammers meant to be needled.... I'd also like to point
> out that it increasingly seems to me that there is no such thing as the
> hammer that just sounds good from the get go... and we can leave them as
> is.  Recent experiences showed me quite clearly that even moderately
> soft hammers benefit greatly (with regards to increased elasticity and
> dynamic range) if needled to release lower and mid shoulder tensions
> even if this requires a good soaking of very thin solids lacquer
> afterwards.  Indeed, this has become really a third road for me, and a
> surprising one at that.
>
> Cheers
> RicB
>
>
>
>
>    Hi All,
>
>    I was wandering if any of you have tried the Abel "Select" from
>    Pianotek vs. other hammers. I have put them in a Mason & Hamlin CC, two
>    9'2" Bechstein ENs, and several Steinways. I have found them to give a
>    great sound with little voicing. I have been told that from one of the
>    professors that played a new Steinway B at another university that
>    while the new B had a great sound, it could not match the sound of the
>    Steinway B that I put the Abel "Select" hammers on. I was also told by
>    all of the staff that neither of the Bechsteins sounded nearly as good
>    as they do now. I was just told by a guest artist that she loved the
>    Mason & Hamlin because of the beautiful coloring of the tone of the
>    piano. Just curious to see if anyone else out there has tried these
>    hammers and how they liked them.
>
>    Bill Balmer, RPT
>
>
>
>
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