[CAUT] Grieg Experiment

Ed Sutton ed440 at mindspring.com
Thu Apr 24 18:20:00 MDT 2008


Fred-

Nowadays wax recordings are read by microscope and then digitally converted 
to sound.
No needles, trumpets or mikes!

Ed Sutton


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Sturm" <fssturm at unm.edu>
To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Grieg Experiment


> Hi Ric,
> Fascinating! Amazing job of matching both style of playing and timber  of 
> the instrument. It certainly sounds convincingly like a re-creation  from 
> the past. Do you know to what extent the digitized version of the  wax 
> cylinder recording was manipulated electronically, if at all? (I  guess 
> there is bound to be some manipulation, even if not intentional,  in the 
> mechanical process of cylinder to needle to "trumpet" and then  placement 
> of mikes and setting gain and whatnot).
> Regards,
> Fred Sturm
> University of New Mexico
> fssturm at unm.edu
>
>
>
> On Apr 23, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Richard Brekne wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> I recently was privileged to be the technician for a very special 
>> recording on Edward Griegs own old Steinway B.  To make a long story 
>> short... old wax roles of Edvard Grieg himself were used to  reference 
>> his playing style so that a present day pianist could  recreate his exact 
>> style on Griegs own instrument. There has been  some controversy as to 
>> how fast to play these old roles.  One thing  that came clear was that 
>> playing them so as to achieve present day  pitch results in the music 
>> being very fast and rather makes Grieg  the pianist sound a bit comical. 
>> The folks behind this project were  convinced that Grieg was adamant 
>> about using a much lower concert  pitch... 434-436 and when playing these 
>> roles so as to achieve that  pitch the playing becomes much more lyrical 
>> and beautiful... more  what one might expect from a musical genius such 
>> as Edvard Grieg.    So we tuned his instrument down from its present day 
>> usual 442 to  436... which had a dramatic affect on the sound of the 
>> instrument as  well... virtually eliminating a very prevalent killer 
>> octave area.
>> In anycase... the link below is a sample clip which interlaces the  new 
>> recording with digital copies of the old wax roles of Edvard  Grieg 
>> himself playing.  I hope you enjoy this little taste of the  project. 
>> Interesting to be sure.  The segments where the wax roles  come in are 
>> easily distinquished because of all the static that  could not be 
>> filtered out. The rest is our recording on Griegs  Piano. Hope you like 
>> it !
>>
>> Pianists Sigurd Slåttebrekk / Edvard Grieg
>> Producer and Sound Technician Tony Harrison
>> Pianotechnician Richard Brekne
>>
>> http://www.pianostemmer.no/music/Grieg.wav
>>
>> Cheers
>> Richard Brekne
>>
>>
>
> 



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