[CAUT] Sieler 5'10"

wbis290 wbis290 at aol.com
Thu Sep 10 16:32:00 MDT 2009


Hi  Paul,

The price for the Sieler sounds very reasonable. I have a client that has a larger Sieler than what you are talking about but it is a great piano provided that everything is regulated well, etc. Before I started taking care of the piano they had someone who was not very technical work on the piano. My first impression of the Sieler was that it was an over rated piano. After not too much work the piano has come to life and it is a great instrument to work with. Typical European piano. Great sound and great touch. go for it.

God bless

Bill Balmer, RPT
Ohio Northern University and the University of Findlay





In a message dated 09/10/09 15:37:54 US Eastern Standard Time, pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu writes:
Thanks, Paul 

You're the only response I got, so I'll let her know what you have found.   

Best, 

Paul 



From: Paul Milesi <paul at pmpiano.com> 
To: PTG CAUT List <caut at ptg.org> 
Date: 09/10/2009 10:10 AM 
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Sieler 5'10"






For almost 5 years now, I have maintained a 1994 Seiler M.180 5’10” in a jazz club in DC.  It had seen some pretty rough treatment by the time I got to it, but I’ve managed to bring it up to a pretty good level in spite of the [use] it gets.  About 4 years ago, I had email correspondence with the head technician in the Seiler factory, who was very helpful in discussing possible reasons for excessive string breakage (worn-out hammers and mis-regulation) (I was pretty inexperienced at the time).  He also emailed me the string scale, which was no longer visible on the bridge.  He told me these pianos have Abel hammers (still thinking about a new set).

Professional pianists, including many from NY’s jazz scene, who have played this piano seem to approve of the instrument fundamentally.  The underlying potential and tone are quite beautiful.  As a pianist myself, I feel it could be a very nice piano.  If only the club would give me the money for hammers!  :)  Over time I have re-strung most of the top 3 octaves with correct gauges, and regulated what’s left of the action, which has almost completely eliminated string breakage.

Other than checking Larry Fine for prices, I have no idea what market value today might be.  I’ve heard the club I’ve referenced paid $20-30K back in the late 90s for a roughly 5-yr-old piano.

Hope this is of some help.
-- 
Paul Milesi
Registered Piano Technician (RPT)
Piano Technicians Guild
(202) 667-3136
(202) 246-3136 Cell
E-mail:  paul at pmpiano.com
Website:  http://www.pmpiano.com

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Washington, DC 20017-1402




From: Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu>
Reply-To: <caut at ptg.org>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:50:46 -0500
To: CAUTlist <caut at ptg.org>
Subject: [CAUT] Sieler 5'10"

Hi all, 

I have a customer who's looking at a Seiler 5'10" grand (1990) for sale for $13,000 from a dealer out of town.  I have only had one previous customer in Seattle who had an old old one that was pretty good, but for some reason, haven't run into them much at all.  What do you think of these pianos and is 13K a decent retail price? 

Thanks 

Paul 
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