[CAUT] lanolin in hammers/VS pro-felt?

Paul T Williams pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu
Fri Aug 6 06:46:34 MDT 2010


BTW...Does this stuff have a shelf life?



From:
Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu>
To:
caut at ptg.org
Date:
08/06/2010 07:35 AM
Subject:
Re: [CAUT] lanolin in hammers/VS pro-felt?



Bill, 

I haven't tried it on hammers.  Will do since I have a bunch of this 
stuff.  I have had some success with slightly worn bushings, but not much 
else.  Some 1098's upstairs will get the stuff next week as I get ready 
for the students' return. 

Thanks 
Paul 



From: 
wbis290 <wbis290 at aol.com> 
To: 
caut at ptg.org 
Date: 
08/05/2010 06:14 PM 
Subject: 
Re: [CAUT] lanolin in hammers/VS pro-felt?




Paul, 
  
I am surprised by your attitude toward VS Profelt. I have used it on 
bushing with great results. It is great to work on hammers that are hard 
and don't hold their voicing with needling that well. I have put them on 
some new U1s that students loved except for the harsh tone. After needling 
and having the hammers return to their original harshness, I put a few 
drops of VS Profelt on the hammers and they now sound great. Would I use 
VS Profelt as something to be used for a fine voicing job on a concert 
grand. Hardly. But, it works great on hammers that you know are going to 
give you problems. I have used it on some Baldwin Hamiltons and it gives 
them somewhat decent tone. The university would not want me to spend a lot 
of time on these old Baldwins so a few drops and the pianos actually sound 
pretty good for what they are. Try it sometime. I know that you are a good 
enough of a tech that you will not over do the VS Profelt. It can make 
hammers i nto mush if you put too much on. 
  
God bless 
  
Bill Balmer,RPT 
  
Ohio Northern University and the University of Findlay 
 
 
 
In a message dated 08/05/10 17:29:06 Atlantic Daylight Time, 
pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu writes: 
Fred, 

Yes, just a bit longer than steaming on the hammers.  I've never put it on 
leather.....why would I? leather is leather..it dries out or gets worn out 
and I don't think there is a way to fix it other than replacing. 

Is VS a waste of money, then? I'm starting to think so. 

Paul 


From: 
Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu> 
To: 
caut at ptg.org 
Date: 
08/05/2010 03:19 PM 
Subject: 
Re: [CAUT] lanolin in hammers/VS pro-felt?





On Aug 5, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Paul T Williams wrote: 

Anyone tried the VS-Pro-felt in the grooves?  I'm considering this on some 
uprights that nobody really cares about in the practice rooms...Isn't that 
why we call them "practice rooms"?? lol  For fun, I tried some VS on some 
smashed in knuckles on this M I'm starting, but it really didn't do 
anything.  I'm wondering what this stuff can REALLY do. I've tried it on 
whip cushions, key bushings, but have not really been happy with the 
results. You? 

Keep in mind that VSProfelt is mostly water. I'd guess 75% or more water. 
I would not put water on leather or hammers, so I wouldn't put VSP on 
either. Some other felts, like wipp cushions or lack regulating buttons, 
fine. 
For key bushings, it works well, but steam and heated cauls is much 
faster. I haven't found a par ticularly good use for it, myself. 
I have found that Downey and 70% isopropyl alcohol (IOW 30% water) in the 
grooves of old practice uprights has a positive and fairly long lived 
effect. A few drops on the surface. Certainly better than doing nothing. 
About the same as steaming, maybe longer lasting. 
Regards, 
Fred Sturm 
fssturm at unm.edu 
"I am only interested in music that is better than it can be played." 
Schnabel 


 


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