I don't have time for a complete response, but I harbor no resentment of the people I worked for. I don't play political games and I'm no brown noser. Respect me as a human being and a professional and the respect will be mutual. Don't expect me to bow. I'm not anybody's servant, and I have my own achievements that are simply different, perhaps not as notable, but no less respectable. I respect their work, but no one here is a god above anyone else. It doesn't take long for me to recognize snobbery, which was evident at the faculty party when I was first introduced as the new staff technician. I have too much else to worry about than playing their mind games, or worse, being considered a snob by guilt of association. Their whole life is playing the game, everything else be damned. My purpose is to support my family. Perhaps you were better at playing their games. you wrote: That > kind of resentment and bitterness is obvious to most and > picked up very quickly by people with artistic > temperaments. That's a creative way of saying "you're not molly coddling their lofty egos". I don't just see it among the faculty. I hung out with the music majors in college, too, during and after my college years. It starts there with all the jealousy and competitive envy, and that immaturity simply continues into professional life. I don't know why that competitive envy that takes the form of ego seems so more prominent among musicians than other people I meet. I know some who refuse to be in the same room together, and it's nothing more than jealosy. It's ridiculous. What I have expressed are observations. Not resentment. Jeff --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Porritt, David <dporritt at mail.smu.edu> wrote: > From: Porritt, David <dporritt at mail.smu.edu> > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Fred's rebuttal and apology > To: "caut at ptg.org" <caut at ptg.org> > Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 1:44 PM > Jeff: > > I am so sorry you worked for people who did not respect you > and what you did. I just retired from a CAUT position > at SMU and was treated very well, respected for my skill and > dedication and appreciated for how I fit in the > position. When I retired they gave me a retirement > party that was far beyond my expectations. > > I don't know why your situation was so radically different > from mine though your contributions to this list hint at > resentment of the people with whom you worked. That > kind of resentment and bitterness is obvious to most and > picked up very quickly by people with artistic > temperaments. > > I don't recall any posts from you on this list that were > either positive, encouraging or uplifting. I hope that > your new business will prove sufficiently successful to > bring you the joy that you have been missing these past > years. I wish for everyone the opportunity to work at > something they enjoy and reach the success that they > desire. > > dave > > David M. Porritt, RPT > dporritt at smu.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: caut-bounces at ptg.org > [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] > On Behalf Of tannertuner > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:22 PM > To: caut at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Fred's rebuttal and apology > > Fred, > Your apology was not necessary. I understand your position > and why you would write it. The tone was expected. What you > mistake for a chip on my shoulder is something else > entirely. I must address, though, one point you make. > > It seems to me that respect must be a mutual event. What I > have observed in my approximately 25 years in the CAUT world > is a great ignorance of our work which is the source of zero > respect coming from the faculty and institutions toward our > craft and the persons who hold our positions. If there were > the least amount of respect, we wouldn't be seen as second > class citizens in the compensation department. Some of this > is our own fault and based on many of our own misgivings. > Anyone who does not see this blatant disrespect towards us > is blind to it and probably lacks self-respect needed to see > it. Many among us drink the coolaid that we are considered > colleagues among the faculty. While there may be a few music > faculty who are more grounded and I certainly acknowledge > rare exceptions to the generalization, my observations over > the years are that we just aren't welcome in their class of > people beyond our professional obligations to them. > > What I have attempted to do on this list is to be the voice > trying to identify and build that self respect among our > members. Surely, if I were going on a job interview, I would > not speak with the same tone or carry the same attitude. The > language I use here is for us. Not them. > > I appreciate that you would not hire me as a CAUT. I lost > my interest in being a slave to people who do not respect > me, the well-being of my family or our craft long ago. > But I continue to comment on this list, hoping some of what > I say is contagious. That is the only way things will ever > change - when we quit rolling over and being doormats. I do > so not for myself, but for the future of our craft and those > who follow in our shoes. > > Jeff > > --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu> > wrote: > > > From: Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu> > > Subject: Re: [CAUT] U. of Northern Iowa position > > To: caut at ptg.org > > Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:22 AM > > On Aug 12, 2010, at 7:38 AM, > > tannertuner wrote: > > > > > I think to a large degree you miss my point. > > > > > > Jeff, > > As I wrote, I was certain I wouldn't > > change your mind. I am quite convinced you will > persist in > > the same attitude you have displayed for the past many > years > > on this list, and it is an attitude that would > certainly > > dissuade me from considering hiring you for a caut > position. > > I don't care what physical skills you have, I wouldn't > want > > someone with that attitude around. Someone with zero > respect > > for the enterprise of the institution, and with an > enormous > > chip on the shoulder, is not really an asset. > > > > Regards, > > Fred Sturm > > fssturm at unm.edu > > http://www.createculture.org/profile/FredSturm > > http://www.youtube.com/fredsturm > > http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/FredSturm > > > > > > > > > > > >
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