[CAUT] Teflon Bushings

[Horace Greeley]

Hi, Brent,

Hmmm...we've long since gone way off point on this thread.  As far as 
I'm concerned, discussions about the relative merits of teflon are 
largely of forensic interest.  From that perspective, many of the 
points raised by David Love are spot on; but, like the rest of this, 
largely academic.

If I remember correctly, Jon's original post had to do with 
reconditioning an action; and his plan made good sense to me.  Where 
we've wound up going with it is to an entirely different place.

Best.

Horace


At 09:18 PM 11/29/2010, you wrote:

>Hi Mr. Horace,
>
>            I don't get this part. First, you strip the parts, are 
> we retaining
>original hammers or what?  Okay, now we get to chip off that old Sty.
>brown glue, few hours making that look good, right? Then we spend
>two days knuckling and repinning at less than fourty percent savings
>over new hammers and shanks. I can't reason with any of the current
>conversation of saving teflon when it is more cost effective to go with
>new, high quality specs. Assuming we are usually talking performance
>standards on the forum.
>Brent
>
>--- On Mon, 11/29/10, Horace Greeley <hgreeley at sonic.net> wrote:
>
>From: Horace Greeley <hgreeley at sonic.net>
>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Teflon Bushings
>To: caut at ptg.org
>Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 12:34 PM
>
>
>Hi, Brent,
>
>At 11:11 AM 11/29/2010, you wrote:
> >and knuckles last how long?
>
>Depends...but, given Jon's chopsaw process, replacing them shouldn't
>be any problem, no matter what.
>
>Best.
>
>Horace
>
>
>
> >--- On Mon, 11/29/10, Delwin D Fandrich <del at fandrichpiano.com> wrote:
> >
> >From: Delwin D Fandrich <del at fandrichpiano.com>
> >Subject: Re: [CAUT] Teflon Bushings
> >To: caut at ptg.org
> >Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 8:19 AM
> >
> >So, please explain all those Steinway actions with Teflon bushings
> >that, once the pins and bushings were properly installed and mated,
> >have gone on working flawlessly for some three decades now.
> >
> >
> >
> >I understand about the hole in the wood and occasionally it could be
> >a problem. But not nearly as often as was claimed by some. It was
> >also a problem that could easily be fixed.
> >
> >
> >
> >ddf
> >
> >
> >
> >Delwin D Fandrich
> >
> >Piano Design & Fabrication
> >
> >620 South Tower Avenue
> >
> >Centralia, Washington 98531 USA
> >
> >del at fandrichpiano.com
> >
> >ddfandrich at gmail.com
> >Phone  360.736.7563
> >
> >
> >
> >From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
> >Of Brent Fischer
> >Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 6:16 AM
> >To: caut at ptg.org
> >Subject: Re: [CAUT] Teflon Bushings
> >
> >
> >
> >Del,
> >
> >
> >
> >     With all due respect, give credit to Steinway. Basically the quote
> >
> >from the WNG site on what went wrong. Along with " a hole in wood
> >
> >is circular only at the EMC which it is drilled at."   Therefore,
> >
> >I agree for contact stiffness the hard bushing for the shank flange
> >
> >makes all the sense , anywhere else in the action, just get rid of it
> >
> >or make teflon beaded necklaces.
> >
> >Brent
> >---
> >
> >
> >
>