Paul,
Since no one else "bit" I will input although I feel like the new kid on the block. I maintain over 300 pianos in a school system of about 90 schools. I have maybe half a dozen damp-chasers in classrooms all of which are away from the wall. You of using the rubber wire chase is probably the best solution and the safest but you need to make sure you have a buy in from the instructor and building supervisor if you have such a thing there.
The other "gotcha" in this scenario is once you have them in place are you willing to keep them in service (water the pianos) or are you going to be relying on the instructor to do so? Chances are if you are not doing it, every time you visit the pianos you may have found that they have been ignored, or unplugged. In a campus environment you may be able to manage this better than I. I see the pianos in question maybe twice a year and have concluded that while the instructors say they want them, they are not willing to do the little ongoing maintenance to keep them going and a dry Damp-Chaser is worse than none at all.
Larry Ray
USD259
Wichita, Ks.
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1. Re: Life Saver Systems on Vertical Classroom Pianos
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 09:00:05 -0400
From: "Paul Milesi, RPT" <paul at pmpiano.com>
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Subject: Re: [CAUT] Life Saver Systems on Vertical Classroom Pianos
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It's been a couple days, and no takers. Am I to assume no one uses a Life
Saver system on a vertical piano that is out from the wall and faces out
into a classroom, and that is moved around the room a little bit? Or is
this topic simply not sexy enough? ;)
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Paul Milesi, RPT
Staff Piano Technician
Howard University Department of Music
Washington, DC
> From: "Paul Milesi, RPT" <paul at pmpiano.com>
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> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 02:48:22 -0400
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> Conversation: Life Saver Systems on Vertical Classroom Pianos
> Subject: [CAUT] Life Saver Systems on Vertical Classroom Pianos
>
> We have 4 classrooms with vertical pianos that are used for theory classes
> and small vocal group rehearsals. The pianos are unfortunately kept at a
> diagonal in the front corner of the rooms on the side by the windows and
> heat pumps that supply AC and heat, in order to avoid blocking blackboards
> while still giving teachers easy access. I've had no luck suggesting they
> be kept on the side by the door or elsewhere, and I can understand why.
>
> So, I'm thinking of installing Life Savers and back covers. But I'm
> wondering about safety of electrical cords from wall out to piano, maybe 4-5
> feet or so. Thought about those rubber cord protectors used in offices.
> Also wonder if exposed back covers would be respected and hold up at all.
>
> Anyone have a similar situation and use a system? What luck? Should I just
> leave the pianos as they've been for years and tune more often, or go for
> more stability? We have a terrible problem with dry heat in winter, and the
> heat pumps are turned on during the day and off all night, causing extremes
> of temp and humidity.
>
> Thanks for any input.
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> Paul Milesi, RPT
> Staff Piano Technician
> Howard University Department of Music
> Washington, DC
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>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 09:14:53 -0500
From: Mark Cramer <cramer at brandonu.ca>
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Subject: Re: [CAUT] Life Saver Systems on Vertical Classroom Pianos
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Hi Paul,
when we added back-covers to our verticals (1999 I believe) stability
with the Life Saver systems went from 10 -15 cents seasonal to 4 or 5.
The only jeopardy to exposed back-covers we've experienced, is pianos
that are repositioned from time to time, and covers are peeled back to
get at the handles. A tidy back-cover installation (IMHO) looks nicer
than the exposed back of the piano. Cord protectors are a good idea.
best regards,
Mark Cramer, RPT
Brandon University
On 28/10/2010 8:00 AM, Paul Milesi, RPT wrote:
> It's been a couple days, and no takers. Am I to assume no one uses a Life
> Saver system on a vertical piano that is out from the wall and faces out
> into a classroom, and that is moved around the room a little bit? Or is
> this topic simply not sexy enough? ;)
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 08:32:58 -0600
From: Cy Shuster <cy at shusterpiano.com>
To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Life Saver Systems on Vertical Classroom Pianos
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For years, classrooms had electrical cords running across the floor to
overhead projectors at the front of the class. Since it's mostly the
professor who walks up front, I'd say the risk of a cord in one of
those rubber protectors is minimal, and the benefits to the piano are
great.
I have pictures that I'll post of using the iron-on tape for
backcovers (thanks to Mark Cramer for his idea). It's fast, and very
neat, and for verticals you don't need access to the back, so there's
no Velcro at all. I iron the tape to the backframe first, peel off
its backing (leaving just a strip of glue behind), then tack up the
cover *without trimming it*. Leave an excess on the sides and
bottom. Iron it in position at the top, then one side, using the
excess so you can position it without burning your hand. Then go back
and trim with a sharp knife, and you have a great result.
--Cy--
Cy Shuster, RPT
Albuquerque, NM
www.shusterpiano.com
www.facebook.com/shusterpiano
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