[CAUT] Steinway verdigris

[Horace Greeley]

Hi, David,

At 05:01 PM 1/10/2011, you wrote:
>Actually there is a pile in the archives but I've never seen and never
>really tried alternative CP materials.  The consensus (with which I so far
>concur) is that nothing works.  Clearly the best solution is to change the
>parts but I'm open to other options if it turns out there are any.

That's been pretty much it for quite a quite, 
which is part of why I am so pleased to see 
things like the new WNG stuff coming 
along.  Maybe, we'll finally get action part 
making out of the stone age and save hardwoods 
for things for which there aren't yet suitable replacements.

Hope all is well!

Best.

Horace



>David Love
>www.davidlovepianos.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Horace
>Greeley
>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 4:05 PM
>To: caut at ptg.org
>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Steinway verdigris
>
>
>Hi,
>
>This has been such a problem for so long that I'm
>kind of surprised that there isn't quite a pile
>of threads on it in the archives.
>
>Anyway - simply replacing the verdigris-infested
>parts has been the option of choice for well over
>three decades.  For a long time, the problem with
>doing so was that the factory parts were so
>variable in quality and dimension that they
>weren't necessarily an improvement and most of us
>who have been doing this for a while simply had
>to use other parts that worked...sort of.  While
>it definitely wasn't optimum in any sense, that
>solution bypassed all of the perniciously
>repetitious problems that went along with trying to rework the older parts.
>
>This is one area in which I think that we are
>incredibly fortunate today that there are so many
>alternatives for dealing with so many of the
>problems that used to be major problems for
>rebuilders.  There is almost an embarrassment of
>riches in terms of quality parts, hammers, and
>strings out there; to say nothing of very high
>quality boards and blocks.  It's a double-bind,
>in a way, because it raises to new importance
>questions around whether or not we really are
>artisans and technicians or simply new parts installers.
>
>Best.
>
>Horace
>
>
>At 02:56 PM 1/10/2011, you wrote:
> >I wonder why not a heavy plastic.
> >
> >Greg Newell
> >Greg's Piano Forté
> >www.gregspianoforte.com
> >216-226-3791 (office)
> >216-470-8634 (mobile)
> >
> >From: caut-bounces at ptg.org
> >[mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Love
> >Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 10:51 PM
> >To: caut at ptg.org
> >Subject: Re: [CAUT] Steinway verdigris
> >
> >Maybe it' time for anodized aluminum center
> >pins. Anyway, the question still stands, if you
> >repinned with a non reactive material could you
> >solve the problem without changing parts and
> >what would that material likely be?
> >
> >
> >
> >David Love
> >www.davidlovepianos.com
> >
> >----------
> >From: Susan Kline <skline at peak.org>
> >Sender: caut-bounces at ptg.org
> >Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 17:21:48 -0800
> >To: <caut at ptg.org>
> >ReplyTo: caut at ptg.org
> >Subject: Re: [CAUT] Steinway verdigris
> >
> >On 1/9/2011 3:02 PM, David Love wrote:
> >But are they 60% copper at the point of contact?
> >
> >I assumed that the center pins are solid nickel
> >silver and not plated -- but these days, I'm
> >learning not to depend too much on the accuracy of my assumptions.
> >
> >Susan