[CAUT] Humidity in schools/commercial buildings

Dennis Johnson johnsond at stolaf.edu
Thu Jan 20 07:41:59 MST 2011


So, do you know how to contact the AHJ?  I don't know why I get the feeling
that AHJ may suggest that you contact ASHRAE.

d.

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:58 PM, David Skolnik
<davidskolnik at optonline.net>wrote:

>  As previously stated, code or no code, the building designers could have
> included humidity control if they a) had been aware of its significance, and
> b) if they had wanted to. (Also, $$). I'm assuming you've come to the
> project after the fact, else you would have been able to copy the list all
> those letters you would have written to the various decision makers.  Since
> becoming aware of the problem, have you written to the administration about
> this?  Has there been any response?
>
> David Skolnik
> Hastings on Hudson, NY
>
>
>
>
>
> At 08:58 PM 1/19/2011, you wrote:
>
> Dear list,
>
> I placed a humidity gauge under a piano for 7 days last week.  RH on Sunday
> was 49%, outside temp mid 60's.  By  Wed and Thurs the outside temp dropped
> to 30 F and the RH inside the building dropped to 16%.  By the following
> Sunday, the outside temp was 70 F and the RH was 60%.   This type of swing
> in RH within a week has occured 4 times this winter.
>
> I contacted ASHRAE RE: HVAC codes lacking minimum RH levels and humidifier
> requirements.   Here is my email (bottom) and the ASHRAE response (top).
>
> Mr. Maret,
> As you note, the building code determines the regulations required for your
> building. These will be established and enforced by the local authority
> having jurisdiction (AHJ). It sounds as if your code requires a maximum but
> no minimum. That being the case the 40-50% RH level desired by piano makers,
> does not exceed the maximum, does not cross any minimum, and would comply
> with the requirement.
> Some applications may require different operating conditions to assist in
> the function of that space. ASHRAE design guidance recognizes this and
> recommendations will vary the temperature and humidity optimal for the
> space. I don’t believe we publish recommendation for your application.
> The procedures for changing a code requirement (if necessary) will be
> stipulated by the local AHJ, not ASHRAE. If you deem necessary I might
> contact them directly on how to proceed.
> Regards,
> Steve Hammerling
> Technical Services Engineer
>
>
> *From:* itunepiano at aol.com [ mailto:itunepiano at aol.com<itunepiano at aol.com>]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:11 PM
> *To:* ASHRAE (Internet Email)
> *Subject:* Dry air and codes
>
>
> Hello,   I'm responsible for tuning pianos in a brand new music building in
> Orlando Florida.  The new HVAC codes require positive air pressure
> (injection of mass amounts of outside air) and codes set max RH levels
> between 50% and 60%.  The problem is there is no provision for minimum RH
> levels, nor a provision for installation of humidification equipment.
>
> Piano makers require an RH level from 40% to 50%.   The summer A/C level
> per code of 50% -60% is too high (and uncomfortable for humans as well)
>
> Due to the infusion of dry outside air and lack of humidifier in the HVAC,
> I've measured RH below 15% three times this winter.  The normal RH is about
> 50%.  The swing in humidity  is damaging to the pianos and takes them wildly
> out of tune.   I would be looking for a minimum humidity level imposed by
> code, and requirement of HVAC humidifiers in school/university/concert
> halls/ and churches.   What would be the procedure to set this in motion,
> and what road blocks would we need to overcome?
>
>
>
> Bob Maret
>
>
>
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