Saddest O of the Week

Kenneth W. Burton kwburton@freenet.calgary.ab.ca
Sun, 25 Jan 1998 05:51:10 -0700 (MST)


	Theodore,
	Maybe I lucked out but I am getting exactly 7 times what I got in
1967.
	Ken Burton "Doctor Piano" Calgary Alberta

On Sat, 24 Jan 1998, THEOFONE wrote:

> 
> Hi group!!!!
>            I have absorbed a lot of this information all week about how much
> pianos cost, price comparisons, ect. and I would like to add my 2 cents
> worth.(literally)
>            The Consumer Price Index was re-vamped in 1967 with that year
> having a value of 1. In the following 30 years, this figure has risen to
> between 6.75 to 7.2.
> What this means is that what you paid $1 for in 1967 will cost you $7 in
> 1997!!!!!!!
> This is the real value of money--- buying power.The goods and services that
> money will actually buy
>             From my 20+ years in this buisness, I cant believe that anyone
> thinks that pianos are expensive!!!!!! But from the prices we charge Im not
> surprised. Think of this.
>             An average $1000 spinet in ' 67 should cost $7000 today!!!!
> (adjusted for inflation)
> It doesnt!!!!! The average $5000 grand piano would cost $35000!!!!  The
> average 9 foot concert grand that cost $9000 would cost $63000 today!!!!!!
>              Seems to me, the ONLY thing that has close to kept up with the
> inflation rate is concert grands. Today you can still buy a spinet for
> $1500-$2000, a decent grand for $10-$15000 and a concert grand for $50-$60000.
> This tells me that the average piano costs a little better than half today as
> it did in 1967. Even one third less if you account for other factors. So
> please tell me how they are more expensive???? They are cheaper now than
> ever!!!! The only thing that I can think of is the AMOUNT of dollars they cost
> is the perception of cost, NOT the real buying power of what they are
> spending. $5000 is a lot of dollars in a number, NOT the real value when the
> adjusted cost should be $12-$15000. The real value is today.
>            One more comment. The price of tunings in my area in 1967 was $20.
> At this time the Guild was allowed to set the price. If you adjust it to
> today, the price should be $140!!!
> Remember that this would give us the same buying power that we had in 1967
> with NO increase in pay at all. Are we the only that does not do better than
> we did before??? I have checked into fees for other services during that time
> period ie. doctors, lawyers, steel workers, laborers, and EVEN the minium
> wage. They have all kept up with or exceeded the inflation rate... Not piano
> technicians. Is there any one out there that is getting 6-7 times their tuning
> rate today than they did in 1967????? Please tell me, so I can crank up my
> rate.
> Dont think of the amount of dollars, think of what they will BUY!!!!!!
>             Its no wonder to me that people think that the piano is dying, the
> whole industry is.
> What we have done ,as an industry(all music) is slit our own throat, then put
> a tourniquette on it to stop the bleeding. Bleeding of suffocation- what a
> choice!!!!!!!! 
>             But, in our favor, please show me how to play last years top 10
> RAP songs on the piano?????? Or  1 RAP song in the top 100!!!!!! Cant be
> done!! Now, where is the value in the piano when it comes to this large
> segment of the industry. Little. Thats NOT our fault. This is not a cost
> problem, its a value problem.
>              So there are exceptions, but this too much money thing is the
> trend, and its NOT TRUE. It doesnt cost too much!! Its just the value THEY put
> on it, and we have gotten caught up in it too. There is great room for
> expansion, half of it is gone. So dont despair!!!!!
>               Please dont sent a lot of hate mail because of this. It is only
> another observation of what has been discussed recently. There are many
> exceptions to what I have said, I know this, but the general observation is
> true. You check the government figures. Alter the numbers %10, + or - , and
> see where you end up? Where is the economic affairs comittee??
>  ( was it worth 2 cents?)                                       Theodore Mamel
> RPT
>                                                                           Pitt
> sburgh Chapter
>             
>            
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