Greetings, Greg asked an honest question, and I think it is a good one, deserving of any of us interested in this sort of thing, to explore, debate, and learn from. << Question was... Just curious as to how you define "tonality", and the seeming implications regarding the various temperaments used in achieving or destroying any remnants of it?>> Tonality is something that comes from context. It, IMHO, refers to an emotional location that is formed by the keys. The concept of tonality arose as the variety of keys increased. In the meantone era, tonality was not that big a deal, as in the basic meantones, all usuable keys sounded with the same tonal implications, (we are talking about the thirds here). When the restrictive limits of the wolf intervals were erased, via Werkmiester's temperaments, etc. the concept of "home key" became more of a musical parameter. The emotive effects were created by 1) definition of, 2) departure from, and 3), return to, a specific degree of tempering found in the "home key", whatever it was. The emotional effects of tempering intervals have been recognized for many centuries, and the beauty that arises from the musical use of the variety is dependant on the listeners reception. If we accept that ""meaning" is a product of a message being received, it is not a unique property of the message", then we must accept that "meaning" is dependant on the audience as well as the "message"( the actual sound of the music). The historical tonal center of the keyboard was the key of C, and this particular key was tuned most purely in almost all temperaments prior to ET. It will be seen that there is virtually no composition written during the classical age that ends with any modulation going away from C, in any key. I.e, since modulating in a Well Temperament, in the direction away from C, would raise the musical tension physically, (by the increased beating in the thirds), no composer ended his piece with this tension unresolved, hence, there is always the finishing modulations that are done toward a more relaxed key. To do otherwise would be to leave the audience hanging, waiting for the harmony to "come home". There is no other key that exhibits this kind of gravitational "pull". I am not saying all compositions ended on C, but rather, that their ending direction was toward C. This is, of course, not a total rule, but lets see how many compositions can be found that end by modulating in the direction away from lower tempering. I need someone here that is more of a musicologist than I am. Any takers? Regards, Ed Foote
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