was accu-tuner now tuning question

[Doug Hershberger]

Hi ken,
   That sounds like a really nice feature of the SAT III and a  necessary
one.
Doug Hershberger
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Jankura <kenrpt@mail.cvn.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: was accu-tuner now tuning question


> At 07:10 AM 7/15/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >List and accu-tuner experts,
> >   I have a question about  octave stretch when using the accu-tuner.In
the
> >area of the piano we generally use 4:2 octaves such as the mid range, I
> >sometimes  will tune the octaves aurally and then check to see what the
> >accu-tuner says about it using a FAC tuning on a page of memory. I am
> >talking about a well scaled piano and a FAC that fits pretty well. What
> >seems to be the case with me is that no matter how conservatively I try
to
> >make the octave stretch the accu-tuner still says the octave is sharp(I'm
> >tuning the upper note to the lower) using the third tenth test listening
to
> >fourths and fifths as well. When I set the octave to the machine and then
do
> >the tests the octave sounds kind of flat or at the very most pure. I'm
> >wondering if others have observed this or I have just been pushing the
> >envelope of stretch so long that I'm used to this more aggressive style.
It
> >is most noticeable on low inharmonicity pianos. It seems like with a
> >Steinway there is more room to customize the octaves and the accu-tuner
> >seems to agree with that.
> >   I would think the different octave choices on the Cyber-Tuner would be
a
> >great advantage to electronic tuning. Even though I have been tuning for
> >years, the above question is kind of a beginner question and I believe in
my
> >own case that using an electronic device for tuning has hurt my aural
skills
> >alot. Does anyone have thoughts on these items?
> >Doug Hershberger, RPT
>
> I'm no expert with the SAT, but I did notice the same thing when I first
> got mine, and would adjust by ear when this happened (10th beating slower
> than 3rd midrange). The SAT III has the capability, like the others, of
> stretching the octaves by using the Double Octave Beat button. When I
> notice this situation, I set the D.O.B. till it sounds right and then
> proceed from there.
>
> Ken Jankura
> South Central PA Chapter, PTG
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