And for my devalued SA 5cents worth; I am a pianotech list subscriber but not a PTG member by virtue of not being in the USA and not likely to get over there for at least another year (for my reasons I wont get into) and for me US$100 at current conversion rate plus bank charges and commision fees and any import tax will be a lot, and if more for non-members then so be it - BUT, I have aquired a couple of journals (thanks to Ed T) and if they are representative of all journals and infomation contained within then I am willing to pay my Rands to buy the CD in dollars, at whatever price. Brian Lawson ---------- > From: Richard O. Snelson <rsnelson@dave-world.net> > To: pianotech@ptg.org > Subject: Re: CD ROM Project Rant > Date: 11 June 1999 06:59 > > As one of the newbe's on the street, I felt a good library and PTG membership was > one of the most valuable assets I could have. I now have a "nearly" complete set of > the journals and a large collections of books. I've spent well over $1,000 for the > books and journals and use them daily in my new piano business. I'm missing a few > journals and hope to get some help filling those back years. (I'll send a list of > the missing.) I do have some doubles and would gladly help others out by trading. > > In the last 6 months I've been to the PA. and Salt Lake conventions, spend several > day with the great Jim Coleman in Tempe and will be in KC and then on to Minn with > Randy Potter for a week. I've completely remodeled a 1200 sq foot metal building to > have a show room and piano repair shop. I've filled it with 7 pianos that I have > purchase so I can learn on my turf. Now its read it, do it..read it again to be > sure and continue.. > > I'm lucky because I'm doing this while still working full time as an electrical > engineer. This paid the startup cost. My wife is a little sore because I've used up > all my vacation with Guild functions. > > > Here's my point, there are new folks willing to take the steps necessary to learn > this business the correct way. I pushed to join PTG as quickly as a chapter would > let me. They were very cautious about new members? For me the most valuable tool in > my new business world is PTG and its members.. Thanks to those that are helping.. > Jim Coleman, John Baird, John Dewey and others. > > I do have a full set of the reprint books that I would sell at a bargin price. Since > I now have the journals I won't need the books. > > Richard Oliver Snelson > Associate Member PTG > Oliver Piano Services > Clinton, IL > > Richard Brekne wrote: > > > Well,.. lets see.. what do we have here.. > > > > Several fingers have been raised about selling out years of experience too > > cheaply. Points have been made about enabling any hobby-ist to compete, or do it > > himself. And points have been made about newbies not paying their "dues" (and I > > am refering to more then just the annual PTG membership dues). > > > > Seems to me that the first point is the most valid. One definately does not want > > to give this away to cheaply. If 100 bucks is too cheap well ok make it more. > > Its certainly worth more. > > > > As far as the hobby-ist is concerned. I say bring em on. I have cleaned up > > through years on these types of guys. There are usually two types. The guy who > > tries it once and blows it big time, then gets tired and does it himself on > > something else, like his VW or something. The other guy is the one who figures > > he can make a few fast bucks by reading a book, buying a machine and calling > > himself a pro. > > > > Now I am the first to get angry at some half bit fraud who goes around stealing > > peoples money by panning himself off as a piano tech and in the process wrecking > > peoples pianos. But this is a problem that cannot ever really solved. > > Fortunatly, these guys are eating at the bottom (of the latrine) end of the > > market, and even then eventually dissapear often as not. In any case I cant see > > them as any threat to me. Good buisness sense, hard work, reasonable marketing > > and I am assured of a nice fat living. The only competition I "fear" is the kind > > that does me the most good. Another professional, who strives to do the best > > he/she can. I gots to keep on my toes to meet that kind of "threat". And > > besides, customers who use these guys are most often (tho not always) the kind > > of customers I prefer to do without. > > > > As far as newbies paying their dues is concerned. They will in time, they most > > certainly will. And hopefully when they reach the age of 40 years or more > > experience they will be just as willing to help the new generation learn the > > ropes as the present one is. You guys who have created the PTG, helped it grow, > > and kept it going have something to be very proud of. And from one who has > > stayed on the sidelines all to long (for reasons I will not get into) I tip my > > hat off to you. If I could re-do the past 25 years in this regard I would, but > > past is past. The point is you all have something to be very proud of. Your > > offering of knowledge to your fellow humans may or may not be misused, but that > > does not take away from the honour you bestow upon yourselves by shareing what > > you know. > > > > There is no form of protectionist policy that in the end is anything more then > > self destructive. In the end a positivist attitude will accomplish more, both > > for your own income, and the furthering of the art. It always does. > > > > Richard Brekne >
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