A440A@AOL.COM wrote: > 2) Again, take the vise grips and grab the new piece, which is still in the > same "butt-jointed" starting position and turn it 270 degrees > COUNTERCLOCKWISE. I personelly, never had much success with vise grips, Maby those first few I did were on really old wire that very liable to break. The kinks I would create often seemed to break when bringing it up. A good pair of round nose plyers makes perfectly smooth round bends every time, no kinks, never ever seems to break on me, not yet anyway. Cheers Dave Renaud RPT
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