This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Ric and list, Musicians will try to play in tune with whatever is happening around = them. That is an important part of being a musician. When the pitch is = pushed up, one must make sure the instrument in use can go up with it. = When someone has decided that the orchestra will tune to 442, that is = what the musicians must do. I am a trombonist, and I've have had to = shorten instruments in order to tune to a higher pitch. =20 When we consider temperament, a musician should be able to follow = the intonation of the keyboard instrument in the ensemble. Granted, = it's easier for strings and trombones, but everyone in the ensemble = should be able to adjust pitches as necessary, no matter what the = instrument. It is one thing that separates the players from the genuine = musicians. Playing with a tempered instrument introduces new rules of = intonation into a situation, especially a solo with piano accompaniment. = There is probably not as much to be considered in a modern orchestra = due to the constant vibrato of the strings that produce what I would = call an "average" pitch. The pitch of the tempered, fixed-pitch = instrument is probably within the range of the vibrato of the strings. Brilliance (brightness) can always be dialed into electronically = produced, or reproduced, music, but live music is something else. The = general attitude is that a higher pitch allows for more brilliance. = This was apparently believed by Leonard Bernstein, who is credited by = many with having a major role in the upward trend of orchestral pitch.=20 Mike Keener ------------------------------ <<Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:08:08 -0500 >From: "Richard Moody" <remoody@easnet.net> >Subject: Re: Baroque Festival > >The other consideration that seems seldom considered is that the >HT's are done from C as the starting note. I know it can be >figured to make a' come out to 442 or 440. But you can <imagine the hassel of one temp having a different pitch for C <(c'') than another. The other consideration is what about the <other instruments of fixed pitch, oboe, flute, bassoon, <clarinet, etc. are they build for ET, or just diatonic? It <would be interesting to have a "gab" session with a symphony <orchestra to hear about problems of intonation when playing with <tempered instruments, and discuss the problems of tuning pianos to <other than an international fixed pitch, which should be A440.=20 <Some where some time someone must answer the question,=20 <why go higher with International Pitch? If not it will go to 445, and I <have heard some European orchestras are already attempting this. <I hear of singers objecting to 442. I know many reasons as a <piano tuner to keep A440. I am sure piano manufacturers would <like to preserve A440.=20 <And what are the reasons to go higher. "Brilliance". ? ? =20 <Why they think pitch has something to with this is beyond me.=20 <They have pianos with hardner in the hammers. They have horns I <am told with space age designed mouth pieces to get a brighter <tone. Cymbals have become brighter through modern technology. <Modern buildings can be designed accoustically "brighter". CDs <now with walkman type head phones "that make the inside of your <head sound like you wish Davies hall did.".(Herb Caen) give a <new dimension with a wider range of "eq" ie more "higher end" <ie brightness. Solid state electronics have given loudspeaker <music an extra bite of brilliance. And they want more? And <somehow they think that will come from raising pitch?? <They must have tin ears.---ric>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/43/ab/26/36/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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