>That is to say, in a Well temperament, the > C-E, G-B, D-F#, and F-A thirds are always favored over the other thirds, > right? > John Formsma > Blue Mountain, MS > The "Wells" seem to have evolved from Meantone, combining "highly" tempered fifths with pure fifths in a scheme to eliminate the wolf. Recently I visited the Shrine to Music Museum in Vermillion South Dakota. http://www.usd.edu/smm/index.html This museum welcomes researchers. I was very grateful to be given a copy of an article from the journal, Early Music; "Instructions for the Clavier Diversely Tempered", by Mark Lindley. (Jan. 1977). Mark Lindley is the author of articles in the New Groves, including "Temperament", the best overall reference to the subject that I have seen. The brief 1977 article in itself is very informative. It goes through the "evolutions" of temperament so to speak, complete with musical examples for the very earliest. Lindley mentions Werckmeister's "preferred tuning" in which the first three fifths are tempered as in Meantone. C--G--D--A. 1/4 comma flat. Continuing in the cycle of fifths the next, A--E--B are tuned pure. Returning to Middle C and going down through the cycle, F--Bb--Eb--------etc all the way to to Gb are tuned pure. Now Gb as F# is compared to B and "should beat nearly the same as C--G a semitone higher". Thus the wolf is only heard as meantone fifth. In actuality only three notes are tempered, as the B--F# "tempered" fifth results from the remaning fifth that "closes the circle". If E had been tuned flat 1/4 comma flat from its fifth, A, C--E would be pure. But E is tuned as a pure fifth, therefore C--E beats slightly. So tuning pure fifths in a meantone scheme where 1/4 comma flat fifths should have been, gives wider thirds than the pure thirds of traditional meantone. The first two thirds above C (by fifths) beat slower than ET as do the first two below C. (C--E, G-B; F--A, Bb--D). With a spread sheet is it is easy to get beat calculations for all the intervals if the tempering of the fifths is known. For those interested I would be glad to furnish the set up formulas. Quoting from Lindley, (tuning the Werckmiester "perferred") "....make middle C beat three or four times per second with A (the ambiguity stems from Werckmeister's own mathematics).... ...the 3rds of the most remote triads, such as Ab, Db and F# among the major tirads, were much more heavily tempered; and E-G#-B and perhaps Eb-G-Bb sounded about as in equal temperament. Dozens of 18th century musicians praised this kind of tuning. It gave variety and nusance to 'transpositions', tha is, nodulations and sequences and the different keys gained a distinctivenerss of acoustic character. One such tuning, praised by Tartini in 1754 for its qualities of *Chairoscuro*, was used at Padua by Vallotti from the 1720's until his death in 1780. Next LIndley explains the "Valotti" starting as a series of pure fifths from F to Gb/F#. Now "dividing in half the remaining series by placing D as a major 3rd between Bb and F#" This series "among the diatonic notes." is "tempered equally among themselves." >From the diagram he gives it appears two notes forming fifths from D to F must be tempered, ie G and C. Now from D to B there are two more notes that make fifths between, A and E, which must be tempered. This may seem ambiguious, but if you have tried to aurally tune Meantone by setting C--E pure and then "juggling" G, D and A to make the C--G--D--A--E fifths "sound more or less the same", (tempered equally among themselves") you should "get the picture" of how Lindley is explaining the Valotti scheme. It should be interesting to try tuning this from only these instructions. The first question would be how should the Bb--D--F# thirds sound? Could it possibly be possibly be that these would be pure?? hmmmm. This I could figure out faster tuning than with a spread sheet. Oh well, for another time... ---ric
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