> > > it's just that there are more swine too. > > > Ha ha. What's wrong with swine? I just wrote an article about swine. I have not a swine met I less than a dog admired. It was Ron who started talking about hams. Come to think of it I'm not sure if he referred to his or theirs. Thank you Stephen for a wonderfully stimulating conversation about wire. As always I learn more every day. And thank you all for your contributions and observations. I love you all and grateful for this wonderful resource. Newton
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