Baldwin torque, (was survey)

[Brian Trout]

What I wonder, though, is how much difference there is in torque readings
after 20 years between a piano that was 230 in/lbs to start with and one
that was 130 in/lbs to start with.  I'm sure a big factor would be what kind
of wood this block was made out of.  But I'm not convinced that taking the
initial torque readings through the roof at (re)manufacture will necessarily
have the implied effect of having a _much_ higher torque (than the lower
torque manufactured piano) 20 years down the line.

I have absolutely no statistics / figures / experimental data from which I
draw the above statement.  It's all "hunch".

(I'm like you again here, Ron N.  I've never taken a torque reading on one
of my blocks.  I know what I want it to feel like when I'm done.  That's my
goal.  How's that for scientific?!)

I've enjoyed the thread though.

Brian Trout
Quarryville, PA
btrout@desupernet.net

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Lemoine <donspiano@earthlink.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: Baldwin torque, (was survey)


> after the ten years of tuning that 180 pin torque, its down around 80 to
90
> not bad, if it is cared for the old way,.
> ----------
> >From: "John M. Formsma" <jformsma@dixie-net.com>
> >To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >Subject: RE: Baldwin torque, (was survey)
> >Date: Wed, Mar 8, 2000, 6:25 AM
> >
>
> >
> >
> >Shelly writes:
> >>When I worked for Baldwin  in the factory at Conway
> >>for  >12  years, the acceptable torque on a pin was between 180 and 230
> >lbs.
> >> otherwise  it was replaced with a  bigger  pin !!!!!!
> >
> ><<    Amazing, but I remember those.  This is also one reason that I and
> >several other techs that I knew stopped recommending Baldwin pianos.
That
> >amount of torque does nothing but exhaust the tuner.
> >REgards,
> >Ed Foote>>
> >
> >I was about to say the same thing, but you beat me to it. :-) I do not
like
> >tuning Baldwin grands, although the verticals are OK.
> >
> >John Formsma
> >Blue Mountain, MS
> >
> >
>