Paying for Information

Delwin D Fandrich pianobuilders@olynet.com
Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:53:49 -0700


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  From: Jon Page=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: August 31, 2001 3:55 AM
  Subject: Re: referall fees; last gasp (reality)


  .... After all, if you are charging for information; expect to pay for =
it.

  That'll be....$.02, please...

  Regards,
  Jon Page

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Ah, now this raises an interesting issue. What about the technician who =
calls another for advice or for help with a technical problem he/she =
can't solve on their own?

I get a number of these calls and, believe me, it is the rare technician =
calling for advice who offers to pay for telephone--and sometimes, =
shop--time spent helping them work through a problem.=20

Yes, in addition to the more than occasional phone call, I've had =
technicians bring jobs they couldn't handle into my shop for what =
amounted to a lengthy hands-on training session who didn't seem to =
believe any monetary compensation was in order. They, after all, were =
doing the actual work....

Once I had a technician--a PTG member, as a matter of fact--call and ask =
me to send him a copy of the hand-out for a class I was scheduled to =
teach at a regional conference somewhere. The conference was in his own =
town, but he wouldn't be attending. There were only three classes he was =
interested in and, unfortunately, two of those three were on Friday and =
he didn't want to miss a whole day's worth of tunings. So he figured if =
the instructors of those classes would send him their class =
hand-outs--plus copies of any pictures or illustrations they planned to =
use--he could look them over and then call some evening, or perhaps on a =
Sunday afternoon, and go over the material in the hand-outs by =
phone--that way he'd save the price of registration and he wouldn't have =
to take a day off to attend the conference. Oh, and did I have an 800- =
number? (I don't know about the others, but he didn't get mine. I was =
the first instructor he'd called with this idea and I was some =
unenthusiastic about the idea--in fact, I'm afraid my response was a bit =
scathing.)

I've had factory reps call for advice--in a couple of cases the results =
of those calls have actually shown up in production--and not one of them =
has ever offered any compensation. (I'll leave it to the reader to =
speculate over who gets credit for the ideas involved.) On one occasion =
two principles of a piano factory called, taking up nearly 4 hours of my =
workday, who were surprised that I would expect to be compensated for my =
time. After all, it was just a phone call, right? (No, I haven't been =
paid and doubt I ever will. And, no, the company involved is not in =
bankruptcy.)

For years I allowed myself to be exploited in this way. Now, I'm a bit =
more hard-nosed about these things. Though I still can't bring myself to =
charge for a quick phone call--I'm so shocked when a calling technician =
offers to pay me for my time I've usually not the heart to say yes--the =
days are gone when I am willing to spend a half-hour or longer on the =
phone with somebody and not expect something in return.=20

Especially when I read about some of you who are expecting a 20% =
referral fee on a $10,000 to $20,000 job for what amounts to a phone =
call or two.

OK, I'll crawl back in my hole now and wait for the phone to ring....

Regards,

Del
Delwin D Fandrich
Piano Designer & Builder
Hoquiam, Washington  USA
E.mail:  pianobuilders@olynet.com
Web Site:  www.pianobuilders.com




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