This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Sandersons told me that yes, most of the canned tunings were based on = averages of some number of that model piano. I don't really fully understand what is the point in this thread = regarding canned vs. FAC vs. inharmonicity changes. I don't think it = really matters which you use because you should always be listening and = adjusting to make your ears happy. I test a bunch of octaves right after = doing my FAC or using the FAC that I had last time and determine my = major Double Octave Beat offsets right off before I even start tuning. = But I guess I feel that regardless of what ETD you use, you will have to = have some means of evaluating the calculated tuning and then making = whatever adjustments may be appropriate. Terry Farrell =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Ross=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 2:46 PM Subject: Re: Stored Tunings v/s FAC Hi Wim, I wonder, are the canned tunings an average, of a multiple of the same = model of piano? That would explain, why they may appear to be better = than a fresh FAC. I still do a fresh FAC, and seldom have to touch it up. But at the = University, with a bunch of one type, I do use the programmed ones. Regards, John M. Ross jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Wimblees@AOL.COM=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Stored Tunings v/s FAC In a message dated 12/23/01 12:14:02 PM !!!First Boot!!!, = tompiano@gate.net writes:=20 I have one concert hall that I have invested at least 15hrs. of=20 tuning-data-input time. The only problem is that I'm never = satisfied with my=20 saved results, even when I'm sure I imputed data correctly and my = tuning is=20 complimentary as possible.=20 I have tuned both concert hall D's at UA for 5 months now and I = always tune them to the canned tuning in my SATIII. The first couple of = times I tried to make a few changes, but found that the changes I made = corresponded with what the machine was telling me. What I wasn't doing = was making absolutely sure the lights stood still.=20 The other thing I found is that I educated the piano players to the = tuning I put on the piano. With the tuning being consistent, the players = know what to expect. They like what they hear, compliment me on it, and = now expect the piano to sound that way every time. This has also = educated me. I used to hear it different (I didn't stretch the upper = octaves as much).=20 This has saved me a lot of time. All I do now is turn on the SATIII = and let it do the tuning for me. The only time I "experiment," is with = some of the practice room pianos. But even then, I usually go back to = what the canned tuning tells me. The only other time I experiment, is on = a piano that is not in the machine, and I have to set my own FAC. Then I = rely more on my ear to tell me if it right or not.=20 Wim=20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/42/ae/58/ea/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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