The idea is to bed keyframe in the piano and then measure the height of the keys. Take to piano and duplicate that measurement by adjusting the bench. This is way too much work for me. Rough it in the shop...I have a let off rack so I use it...fine regulate in the piano. David I. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 2/26/01 at 8:36 AM Farrell wrote: >> > Well, I have not seen/used Del's brother's bench, but I assume in is >simply >> > a flat bench. >> >> Hmm well it is not... it is a keyframe looking thing that has several >glide >> bolts (obviously pointing upwards to meet various points on the real >keyframe. >> The Action is placed on this adjustable "bench", after the action has >been >well >> bedded in the first place to the real piano, and then the bench is >adjusted to >> the action. > >Oh, I did not understand that the bench was adjustable. Sounds pretty >awesome. But how, after the action is properly bedded in the piano, do you >properly bed the action on the bench? Assuming the action frame has some >flexibility, I should think the action frame might simply assume a >different >curve as one or more of the rails. Now if the action was finely regulated >(level keys, etc.) before coming out of the piano, then you could use the >key leveling to level/adjust your bench. But then, if the action was finely >regulated, why take it out of the piano? I guess its really only the key >level that would need to be right on to evaluate whether you had the bench >adjusted right. > >Pretty neat idea. It is amazing what we will try! I still like my table. >Each regulating tool when dropped/set on table excites its own unique set >of >partials! > >Terry Farrell >Piano Tuning & Service >Tampa, Florida >mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no> >To: <pianotech@ptg.org> >Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:56 AM >Subject: Re: Grand regulating > > >> >> Farrell wrote: >> >> > >> > Oh, good. I thought you were going to tell me that I was "wasting time" >> > having fun while working! ;-) >> >> Not me..... :) >> >> > Who in the world has said anything about FINE bench regulation. That is >an >> > oxymoron, just like Militrary Intelligence. I get an action in the >ballpark >> > on the bench. And yes, absolutely, they often do vary quite a bit from >flat. >> > :-( >> >> Why the frown...? too early in the morning ?? No really, I probably just >> misunderstood your post... seemed like you were going that direction in >your >> response Ron S. >> >> > >> > Well, I have not seen/used Del's brother's bench, but I assume in is >simply >> > a flat bench. >> >> Hmm well it is not... it is a keyframe looking thing that has several >glide >> bolts (obviously pointing upwards to meet various points on the real >keyframe. >> The Action is placed on this adjustable "bench", after the action has >been >well >> bedded in the first place to the real piano, and then the bench is >adjusted to >> the action. Then all that picky action work can be done. Works great as >long as >> you dont have to do anything that changes keyframe at all. Even removing >the >> stack can actually cause the idea to fail. I am not sure that he uses >this >> himself anymore. We try out all kinds of great ideas during our years at >this >> stuff. Not all of it works out as great as we think it will. >> >> > > I also like the customer to see a good deal of what I am up to... >preferably >> > explaining some things as I go along. >> > >> > Good point. Pretty cool to see their eyes pop out when they see all the >> > littly itty bitty parts in an action. The amazed customer will then >say: >> > "And there are adjustments to do on all those little parts? Wow, you >must >> > really know what you are doing!" >> >> Grin.... well I dont really know about the ego feeding part... I suppose >thats >> there in most of us to some degree. I find many customers are genuinely >> interested... at least to a point... and its a good oportunity to educate >them a >> bit on why they need us, how often, and just a bit about what their piano >really >> is. >> >> >> > Maybe it is just because I am still a bit of a newbie, but I also like >to >> > make that first pass at regulating the action on the bench ...so that I >can >> > see that my felt thicknesses are good,.... may find there will be more >> > repairs, etc. rep..... lever center pins are super tight, or the rep >springs >> > are way screwed >> > up - I would rather address this in my shop.... than in the >> > home, etc., etc. >> > >> > I simply like to have an action ready for fine regulation when it goes >into >> > the piano. >> >> I dont think you have to be a newbie to buy this line of reasoning. >> >> -- >> Richard Brekne >> RPT, N.P.T.F. >> Bergen, Norway >> mailto:Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no >> >> >>
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