Verdigris fix

[Dick Beaton]

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Verdigris fix
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: thepianoarts=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 9:44 PM
  Subject: Verdigris fix=20


  Dale and list,

  Several years ago,  a  tech from a neighboring chapter suggested =
'Kutzit' ( as in stripper) as a=20
  All...

  Sometime in the past the vertigris problem was discussed in length on =
this net..  My understanding is that nothing can be done about it except =
replacement of the affected parts.  That was the conclusion drawn as I =
understood it.=20
  In my own experience with two Steinway Grands......I used Protek =
generously on the hammer flange bushings.  The action freed up nicely on =
both pianos.  One of the pianos was a "D" which had not been played for =
25 years and had been moved from Viginia (wet) to Helena, MT (dry)   It =
would not play....hammers just dropped back slowly.  The Protek did the =
job and the piano has been in use regularly in St. Helena Cathedral ever =
since....6 years or so.  The other is an "O" that I bought and sent to =
my daughter in Silverdale, WA.  It works just fine too.   One comment:  =
The swing check on the "B" showed some variance in the friction, but it =
never did get much of the green stuff .... at least not as much as the =
":D".  Haven't had any complaint from my daughter.  My 2$ worth.
  Dick RPT MT




  possible treatment  in treating vertigris.  I have used it on several =
nasty vertigris Steinways,  grands=20
  ----- Original Message -----

  From: Allan L. Gilreath, RPT

  Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:20 AM

  To: pianotech@ptg.org

  Subject: RE: naphtha + mineral oil


  Terry,

  The original research found this to work better at a concentration of =
8
  parts naphtha to 1 part silicone.  There are other variables that you =
can
  get into but I've been working with a chemist on some of these =
particulars.
  But maybe I can play with that more after next summer.

  Allan

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On =
Behalf
  Of pianolover 88
  Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:16 PM
  To: pianotech@ptg.org
  Subject: Re: naptha + mineral oil


  I'm waiting for my order of 100% Silicone Liquid, from Baldwin. This =
will be
  my substitute for the outrageously priced Protek! This is cut 20/1
  naptha/silicone.

  Terry Peterson
  Precision Piano Service
  Torrance, CA


  >From: "Howard S. Rosen" <hsrosen@earthlink.net>
  >Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org
  >To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
  >Subject: naptha + mineral oil
  >Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 12:53:14 -0400
  >
  >
  >Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 07:40:29 -0400
  >From: "Phil Bondi" <tito@PhilBondi.com>
  >Subject: Re: naphtha + mineral oil
  >
  > >     A number of years ago, I worked in a piano shop where the we =
used a
  > > mixture of mineral oil and naphtha to lubricate sluggish flanges.  =
What
  >is
  > > anyone's opinion on this?
  > > Gary McCormick
  > >
  >..I'm really glad someone else mention this before me..yes..I use =
this, and
  >it works just fine...4 parts naphtha-1 part Mineral oil.
  >
  >whew,
  >roo(k)
  >___________________________________
  >
  >I agree with the roo(k). I've used this for 30 years with great =
results and
  >no adverse effects. However, my formula is 8 parts naphtha to 1 part
  >mineral
  >oil. My feeling is that 4 to 1 might be too oily and might gum things =
up. I
  >don't know for sure...just a gut feeling.
  >
  >With all the praises for Proteck, I too never felt that it worked any
  >better
  >than my formula above. Amazing, isn't it, how we techs differ in our =
ideas,
  >approaches, opinions,methods etc. ?
  >
  >Howard S. Rosen, RPT
  >7262 Angel Falls Ct.
  >Boynton Beach, FL  33437
  >
  >561-737-2057
  >hsrosen@earthlink.net
  >


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