more on this temperament thing

[David Love]

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My experience suggests that C8 at 43+ is not a conservative stretch but =
a fairly healthy one.  To my ear, I usually reduce the stretch (on the =
SATIII via the DOB).   On concert grands I seem to prefer it a bit under =
40.   On smaller grands and uprights, in the mid 30's.  Of course the =
general scaling does make a difference.  But generally I find the =
standard setting on a SATIII over stretches.  I am curious what other =
people find.

David Love=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: David M. Porritt=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: October 21, 2001 7:40 AM
  Subject: Re: more on this temperament thing


  Bill:

  You've talked quite a bit of your "tempered octaves" but as one who =
has seen everything from 2:1 octaves to outrageously stretched octaves I =
don't know what kind of stretch you're talking about.  Could you give us =
some numbers so we can know what you mean by tempered octaves? =20

  For example, when I tune a Steinway D my C6 is stretched to 5.06, C7 =
is 16.11, and C8 is 43.84.  This is what I consider a conservative =
tuning.  What kind of numbers do you get?  On any piano, just measure =
your C6, 7, & 8 and tell us what model piano it is, and how it stretches =
with your tempered octaves.  That would be very informative.

  Thanks,

  dave
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  On 10/21/01 at 7:19 AM Billbrpt@AOL.COM wrote:
    In a message dated 10/21/01 6:07:55 AM Central Daylight Time, =
davidlovepianos@earthlink.net (David Love) writes:=20



      That being said, if the pianist needs an altered tuning to create =
excitement, he should practice more.


    It's always been my belief, as a piano technician that the better =
prepared the piano, the better equipped the artist is.  Remember that I =
have not advocated *HT* as such for Jazz.  To you, this implies =
*altered* tuning which means something quite noticeably different and =
thus creates an *interference* with what you do rather than provide an =
enhancement.=20

    I don't know if you can or have tried my EBVT but as I have designed =
it (with Tempered Octaves), it is meant to enhance your playing, not =
shock or disturb your musical sensibilities.  It is meant to provide =
definition, texture and clarity, not weird, jarring and shocking =
dissonances.  If the EBVT is still to *altered* for you, I believe you =
might benefit from the Marpurg (also with my Tempered Octaves system).  =
I will give your piano an uncanny clean, crisp and clear sound but =
absolutely will not create any distinction between keys.=20

    Bill Bremmer RPT=20
    Madison, Wisconsin
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David M. Porritt
dporritt@mail.smu.edu
Meadows School of the Arts
Southern Methodist University
Dallas, TX 75275
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