I wrote: > Stravinsky's music seems to rely on equality, I don't know if it would have been created for anything else. >> and Billbrpt responds: >>To say that this music was written for or required ET is a statement pulled out of thin air. It has no foundation in fact nor is there any evidence to support it.<< Ah, yes, and there is equally little to recommend otherwise. I based my statement on listening. However, the logic for ET comes from the following: He lived from 1882 to 1971, so equality was a well known tonal image in Stravinsky's time (something that even a die-hard temper-bender like me will accept) His major work was done in the earliest part of the century, and though he composed some for the piano, his ballet and orchestral work makes use of the piano almost as a percussion instrument. A temperament that didn't favor keys would be more attuned to the other instruments, so ET would be a logical choice,even if it wasn't the newest, most scientific, modern, style at the time. If Bach composed keyboard works under the influence of his period's intonational resources, is it a stretch to assume that Strav. did also? The former had natural horns, the latter valved brass. One favors the "natural harmony" the other the scientific (1.059). Old Bach had one foot in centuries-old Baroque Meantone, his latter day counterpart was composing on the eve of the most "modern" music ever played on the piano. In 1911, Braid-White was an influential writer in the piano world, tuning was becoming a formalized trade and all the tools to tune ET were there. If we accept that temperament can provide some compositional influences, why would Igor be immune? I think it illogical to disassociate composers from their particular harmonic worlds. The horizons were different at different times. Even though a composer may carry the preceding architecture along with his work, it doesn't mean it is a defining trait. (Beethoven loves to throw in Bach-like counterpoint in his sonatas, but it isn't what he is KNOWN for). To deny ET propriety for Stravinsky's work, in favor of some earlier form, it will have to shown that there was not new intentions in Stravinsky's work, and what part temperament plays into that will be decided on comparisons, not fact. I also believe that temperament, in the style of his writing, is almost incidental. I've heard this music on early and modern tuning, I still say "Stravinsky's music seems to rely on equality". I'll add Debussy and Ravel in there too. The use of ET seems to make this music "hang together" better, for not only myself, but numerous listeners that have made the comparison. One tech in the Crystal City class said that a Ravel piece seemed to "fall apart" in the nonET I was using. Most others agreed. Some disagreed, but we all got a peek at others tastes. The world of esthetic values is really no place for "facts" or proof. It is a place for sensitivity. So, this may all be thin air; that's what angels dancing on pins breathe, but better thin than hot! Regards, Ed Foote RPT
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