Building a shop - You have no idea!

Robert Goodale rrg@unlv.edu
Tue, 09 Apr 2002 00:16:56 -0700


Well we have been making steady progress on preparing to build our new 
shop.  As always it is becoming a much bigger deal than expected.  Our 
architect is nearly  finished with the plans, (should be completed this 
week).  Unfortunately it doesn't end there.  Next we need to go to a 
structural engineer.  This person does all the specifications on load 
bearings, where the headers go and how heavy, where the trusses connect, 
roof specifications, etc, etc.

Then there is electrical.  My initial plan was to subcontract someone to 
hook to my meter, pipe it to the shop, and install the panels.  I would 
then wire it up myself and call the electrician back later to connect 
and seal the panel.  A problem however is that our existing meter/panel 
is rated at 200 amps.  We will be required to upgrade it to 400 amps in 
order to sub feed an additiona 200 amps to the shop panel.  This means 
the power company will need to shut it down and pull the meter for a day 
while my electrician upgrade the entire panel.  More expense.

I have had three electrical contractors over to evaluate the situation 
for bidding.  Two of them will not allow me to wire the shop because 
they don't want to accept liability for connecting my wiring to their 
panel.  This is total nonsense of course but I have invited them to bid 
anyway.  The third doesn't have any problem with my doing the wiring and 
actually gave a few useful suggestions but seemed to be somewhat 
hesitant about taking the job because he was so busy at more profitable 
contracts.  In all cases I have agreed to do all the trenching myself to 
save a few dollars.  I am going to look into getting a couple more bids. 
 I need to find someone fresh out of school and hungry for work.

Then there are the trusses which will be prefabricated and trucked in. 
 We have designed the width of the building at 32 feet which my 
contractor brother in law who lives in California says is about the 
maximum span that can be handled without hiring a crane.  The truss 
company is required to do their own engineering as well for the load 
calcs and design.  We haven't even got to grading and concrete bidding 
yet.  These and the trusses will probably become the most expensive part 
of the job although I remain concerned about electrical.

We intend to have a rest room in the shop.  Unfortunately this presents 
a huge problem with permitting because the county will then classify the 
building as a dwelling structure.  The codes are a nightmare.  My 
contractor brother in law suggested an alternative plan that will work. 
 The trick is to install the drains AFTER inspections but BEFORE 
concrete it poured.  Simply leave the plumbing a couple inches below the 
surface lightly covered with sand.  When the inspectors are gone for 
good we can easily break the pipes out of the concrete and continue as 
planned.  I asked my architect about this and he said this was a common 
proceedure for these types of projects and agreed.  No one will ever 
check it or care.  The same goes for heating/AC.  If we install AC as 
part of the project we must hire an engineer to do a series of 
ridiculous thermal calcs.  Our architect says forget it.  The loop hole 
is to contract a heating/cooling man to do the installation AFTER the 
building is completed.  Once the building is finished the county can no 
longer dictate heating and cooling requirements.

And so the story goes.  We are getting quite an education and learning a 
lot of tricks.  When all of this is completed I can certainly advise 
anyone who intends on building a shop on what to expect.  It is truly 
amazing!

Rob Goodale, RPT
Las Vegas, NV



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