----- Original Message ----- From: Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:18 PM Subject: "Old School Teachings" | What did they teach piano tuners decades ago? I would venture that "decades ago" the best training for tuners was in factories. There were many more factories decades ago than today. Next would have been dealerships. The dealers had a senoir technician and he hired who he needed for grunt work and trained those who showed an interest in advancing. This was in the decades before the Guild. Next would have been the used piano dealers. This is where my teacher honed his craft. Before that he took his first lessons from a tuner who had toured with Paderewski. He was offered to continue in an apprenticeship but the Nazis came to power and he was lucky to get out before the holocost. In San Francisco where I appreticed, there was a tuner, Vladimer Palm who was highly praised (including my teacher) for his temperaments. I never met him but the legand was he tuned for the court of the Czar. They said he tuned ET the best, well one of the best. So I don't really understand the question about why people in "the old school" were sub-standard. In that argument, the "old school" isn't defined, and one wonders how listening to the crappiest modern piano ever built, that any tuner can be judged, let alone how one tuner's effort there can be extended to indicate how the "old school" tuned. There were "bums" back then and there are "bums" today and one example does not indicate the level of expertise of the times. The old school was a direct passing on of skills from master to appretice. Unfortunatly that method doesn't seem as common nowdays as we imagine it back then. Which makes an hypothesis plausible---the opportunities for acquiring and enhancing tuning skills were much more available and of a higher standard in 1902 than in 2002. I as a student of history, I would defend such hypothesis,,,,especially if I could get a secretary to present them in good gramatic and orthographic form. ; ) ----ric If legends are made they come from stories like this. He when fifteen decided to try to tune the family piano. Keep in mind he was on a playing level of a bit of very good talent and branching off into organ and harpsichord. His mechanical aptitude led him into the tuning endeavor. The family tuner came around and gave a critique of his tuning and pointers and offered him an apprenticeship in the comming year. Unfortunatly the Nazi's came first and he was lucky to get out alive. Now he said the tuner was one who had toured with Paderweski | | I tuned a 1970 (or so) "Kincade" spinet today. Seemed to be a lot like a "Grand" spinet. Nuff said. The piano was a full half-step flat. The folks just moved here from Texas. I asked how long had it been since the last tuning (expecting her to say about 1971), she said about a year ago and that she had it tuned every six months. I was dumbfounded. They are the original owners of the piano. | | This piano is played by two of her daughters, one has been taking lessons for four years, and the other for two years. There is no rust on the strings. There are no cracks in the plate. There is no significant defects in the plywood soundboard (unless you want to count the whole board as a defect). This piano should be tuned to A440. This woman was happy as a clam to pay for two pitch raises and a tuning and thanked my about 100 times for getting it up to pitch. The older daughter had always complained about the piano "sounding off". | | Now here is the flame Terry part. I asked her if it was an elderly gentleman that had been tuning the piano. Of course, she said "yes, how did you know?" | | My question: Why is it that many "old school" piano tuners "tune it where it lies". I can understand the old upright worries (although I find they are usually not justified), but not a 30 year old piano. I don't think human intelligence has gone up much since 50 years ago (I can think of many examples - but this is not a political list!) - I can only assume they were taught that way. Is that correct? | | Terry Farrell | |
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