Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?

[Kevin E. Ramsey]

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P.S. Freely translated, "Yabut"  means "Yeah, but..." :-}

I knew that Alan, I was just being obstinate.=20

    That twenty minute tuning isn't known as a Concert Tuning From a =
Master Technician type of tuning believe me. It's more of a "Oh my God, =
look at the time, how will I ever,,,,,I hope it's not too bad..." type =
of exercise in pure horror. Actually, when doing one of these types of =
things, as the clock ticks down to zero hour, you start taking items off =
the mental inventory table of things you normally do. When It get's any =
shorter than 20 minutes or so, we're looking at cleaning up unisons, and =
any octaves that really stand out. In my opinion, a concert tuning is =
where I have at least four hours to go over the piano and address =
tuning, voicing, and regulation issues. In this instance, I checked the =
overall pitch, which was really close, set up my SAT, started at A4, =
checked the width of the temperament octave and away we went, tuning =
down from there to the bottom, fudging octaves as I went. Then I go back =
to A4, set the machine at A3, and started tuning custom stretch octaves =
up to about d#5, then I set the machine at E3 and tune leaving the notes =
a couple of cents sharp. I get up to B6, with the machine set at B4, =
after tuning it, I take the machine up to B6, if it agrees with what I =
have done, then I know I'm in the ball park for the stretch I like and =
buzz through the top octave. After that it's pull all those unisons in =
as quick as I can, and when I'm done I play four octaves chromatically =
through the center of the piano to the top octave, looking for anything =
that isn't a smooth progression. That's my quick tuning technique.=20


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Alan R. Barnard=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:39 AM
  Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?


  Hope you didn't read any criticism into my message, I was just =
commenting on the many different percentages that have been thrown about =
in this thread.

  Now you have REALLY tweaked my interest: Tuning a piano in 20 mins? I =
don't think I could even randomly turn all the pins in that much time. I =
am, admittedly, quite slow (I have only been doing this for about 2 =
years, don't have very many customers, and my ADD doesn't help me stay =
focused on repetitive tasks like unison setting) but tell me, tell me =
anything that might help speed things up ...

  My Tibetan is a little known local dialect from around the Lungmug =
pass which, incidentally, is the area of the headwaters of the Mekong =
River (Dza chu) and the village of Chamdo.


  Alan R. Barnard

  P.S. Freely translated, "Yabut"  means "Yeah, but..." :-}
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Kevin E. Ramsey=20
    To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
    Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:01 PM
    Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?


        Alan, I didn't know you spoke Tibetan..... Yabut to you too.=20

        Dr. Al recommends 20% in the bass, I tried it, and it really =
works for me. He is published as saying he recommends 33% percent in the =
treble. I tried it on a whole bunch of pianos and piano styles and =
sizes, and it has always left the treble too sharp. Notice, I didn't say =
too sharp for my own personal taste,  but too sharp according to his own =
machine.=20
        All I can tell you, is everything I try to put out here on this =
list are things that I definitely have given great thought to, and done =
a lot of research and experimentation on. I don't know anywhere near as =
much about soundboards and piano construction as people like Del and Ron =
Nossaman, I don't know as much about action geometry as Roger and many =
others on this list,( although I do know a whole lot about actions and =
regulating them.) But one thing I'm sure of is how to take a piano and =
bring it up from "horrible" to a concert level tuning in the shortest =
amount of time. I have to know how to do it, I'm one of the people in =
the sixth largest city in the USA who is the one up there that's given a =
little over a half hour to get the piano ready after it's sat under =
blowing air conditioning for four hours. I have to know how to do it, =
and what works, and what doesn't.
    =20

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