New Tuner

[David Andersen]

Hi Tom-----Welcome to the list.  For what it's worth, I'm an aural 
tuner---have never used a machine, and before i started posting here, was 
very prejudiced against their use.  Now I'm much more accepting of their 
value as a stress reducer and teaching device, but I still feel they can 
be dangerous to the growth of the heart of our craft----the ability to 
use your ears and body as a highly developed feedback loop. My advice is 
this: honor your ears; trust your ears; learn to tune a piano WELL with 
your ears; use an ETD to check your work or learn what you're doing right 
or wrong----but the best  tools you have are covered by skin, and powered 
by blood and mystery ......David Andersen




>Hi Jason,
>
>I could not disagree more with you about etd's and learning aural tuning.
>If they are used properly they will reduce the learning curve for aural
>tuning to a minimum. Unisons are rarely tuned by etd. I do recommend a
>mentor be found if at all possible. 
>
>At 06:35 AM 12/17/02 -0800, you wrote:
>>Tuners who use the computer to read this list are far more likely to use
>electronic tuning tools. But as a new tuner, you need to be wary of
>learning through an electronic device; your ears need training, and the
>electronic devices bypass that.
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>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Tony Caught" <caute@bigpond.com>
>>To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:54 AM
>>Subject: Re: New Tuner
>>
>>
>>Hi Tom
>>
>>A recent survey carried out by someone on the list showed 70% electronic.
>That is of people who answer.
>>
>>Tony Caught
>>Darwin Australia
>>caute@bigpond.com
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: thomas adams 
>>  To: pianotech@ptg.org 
>>  Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:37 PM
>>  Subject: New Tuner
>>
>>
>>  Hello list, 
>>  As an  new list member and aspiring  tuner, I have one question,
>(actually many, but one for now).  Do most of you tune by ear, or with an
>electronic tuner, or a combination of both? Thanks,
>>  Tom