Hi David, Hmm covered in blood you say? Been restringing lots of pianers eh? LOL! At 11:49 AM 12/17/02 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Tom-----Welcome to the list. For what it's worth, I'm an aural >tuner---have never used a machine, and before i started posting here, was >very prejudiced against their use. Now I'm much more accepting of their >value as a stress reducer and teaching device, but I still feel they can >be dangerous to the growth of the heart of our craft----the ability to >use your ears and body as a highly developed feedback loop. My advice is >this: honor your ears; trust your ears; learn to tune a piano WELL with >your ears; use an ETD to check your work or learn what you're doing right >or wrong----but the best tools you have are covered by skin, and powered >by blood and mystery ......David Andersen > > > > >>Hi Jason, >> >>I could not disagree more with you about etd's and learning aural tuning. >>If they are used properly they will reduce the learning curve for aural >>tuning to a minimum. Unisons are rarely tuned by etd. I do recommend a >>mentor be found if at all possible. >> >>At 06:35 AM 12/17/02 -0800, you wrote: >>>Tuners who use the computer to read this list are far more likely to use >>electronic tuning tools. But as a new tuner, you need to be wary of >>learning through an electronic device; your ears need training, and the >>electronic devices bypass that. >>>|| ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| >>> jason kanter * piano tuning * piano teaching >>> bellevue, wa * 425 562 4127 * cell 425 831 1561 >>> orcas island * 360 376 2799 >>>|| ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| >>> >>>.......... >>>. jason kanter . jason.kanter@wamu.net . jkanter@rollingball.com >>>. vp/manager . learning & performance development >>>. consumer loan servicing . washington mutual bank >>>. office 206 490 6708 . cell 425 830 1561 >>>............................... >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Tony Caught" <caute@bigpond.com> >>>To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> >>>Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:54 AM >>>Subject: Re: New Tuner >>> >>> >>>Hi Tom >>> >>>A recent survey carried out by someone on the list showed 70% electronic. >>That is of people who answer. >>> >>>Tony Caught >>>Darwin Australia >>>caute@bigpond.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: thomas adams >>> To: pianotech@ptg.org >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:37 PM >>> Subject: New Tuner >>> >>> >>> Hello list, >>> As an new list member and aspiring tuner, I have one question, >>(actually many, but one for now). Do most of you tune by ear, or with an >>electronic tuner, or a combination of both? Thanks, >>> Tom >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > Regards, Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T. mailto:drpt@sk.sympatico.ca http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK S4S 5G7 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner
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