----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip L Ford" <fordpiano@lycos.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: January 13, 2002 2:35 AM Subject: Re: Sound waves(The behavior of soundboards) > > For example, athough I think it likely the bridge motion proponents will > >contest this, and I await the next ingenious denial, their ideas would suggest that > >the agraffe itself must be moving similarly to the bridge, although on an obviously > >reduced scale- that is rocking fore and aft, flexing side to side and moving the > >plate underneath it. I rather doubt it. > > No I don't contest or deny it. This is consistent with the idea of force being > applied by > the string to its supports as it vibrates. If a force is applied, unless the agraffe > and plate are infinitely stiff then they must move. This seems consistent with > what the designers try to do - make the agraffe and plate system very stiff here > so that they move as little as possible so that string energy is dissipated as little > as possible at this point. This would certainly be easy enough to prove or > disprove. > Simply put an accelerometer on an agraffe and strike the string. If you are correct > then the accelerometer would register zero. In my opinion, if this were to happen, > it would be in your words 'fantastic'. Phil, this is precisely what does happen and, yes, it is proven by the accelerometer tests you've described. The agraffe does move in response to the motion of the string. As does the capo tastro bar. Hence the various schemes to couple the capo tastro bar to the pinblock flange. Del > > > Similarly, the rear duplex, where sound > >can be heard by examining the string with the stethoscope, should cause the hitch > >pin to be subject to a similar effect. Yet, when one listens with the stethoscope > >to the neighboring string very little sound is heard. This occurs as the stresses > >in the wire rounding the pin becomes so great relative to the stresses that are > >the propagating sound in the wire that they are unable to propagate coherently > >through the more intense stress concentration rounding the pin. > > > >Regards, Robin Hufford > > > > That's your explanation. Mine would be that the speaking length is vibrating, which > moves the bridge, which causes the backscale to vibrate. Most of this vibration is > reflected at the duplex bar so very little makes it through to the short length of > string between duplex and hitch. Since this portion of the string is not vibrating > there is no oscillating or vibratory force applied to the hitch pin. What the hitch > pin essentially sees is the static load from the string. So it doesn't surprise me > that there isn't much vibration in the area of the hitch pin. Plate flanges also move in response to the vibrating energy in the strings. It also is proven by the various accelerometer tests that have been conducted over the years. This motion is the basis for the Steinway bell and coupling bolt along with the various nosebolt schemes that have been developed over the years. Del
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