---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment In a message dated 1/19/2002 1:51:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,=20 JD@Pianomaker.co.uk writes: > Subj:Re:y own Soundboard=20 > Date:1/19/2002 1:51:33 AM Pacific Standard Time > From:<A HREF=3D"mailto:JD@Pianomaker.co.uk">JD@Pianomaker.co.uk</A> > Reply-to:<A HREF=3D"mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> > To:<A HREF=3D"mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> > Sent from the Internet=20 > . J D Writes > As to the crown in the other direction, I'll quote from Wolfenden,=20 > writing in 1916: >=20 > "Modern practice all over the world, aims to put the board itself=20 > into a state of compression, to that it is constantly acting to=20 > assist the bars [belly bars =3D American: ribs] to do their duty. > The writer's own formula is: Arch the bars to about the usual=20 > curvature [60 ft radius], keep the board warm at say 100=B0 to 120=B0 F.=20 > for a few hours to shrink it. > Place it on a frame or board hollowed out a trace deeper than the=20 > curve of the bars, and while the board is hot, glue the bars down. > When the pressure is released, the rounding will be greater than=20 > the original curvature of the bars, and the board in a considerable=20 > state of compresssion, which it will retain and which will increase a=20 > little. > The backs of the bars which by this process become a little hollow=20 > in the length, are afterwards planed straight. > The whole structure thus becomes a highly elastic spring" > > =20 Hi JD I totally agree with Samuel and can relate having made many boards this way= =20 with the exception that his drying method is archaic and unpredictable or=20 just not clearly presented. As he subscribes to cutting 60 ft. radius ,which= =20 is good, it however needs to be coupled with more predictable and moderate=20 E.M.C in the panel after drying. I however no longer think it a must that th= e=20 caul or dish radius be greater than the radius of the ribs. Even with 60 ft.= =20 soundboard cauls or dish and drying to 30% R.H./6 % emc, the long ribs will= =20 still hollow a bit. If its tooooooo dry using his method one would still end= =20 up with too much panel compression and defeat the purpose of significant rib= =20 crowning by introducing the destructive crushing cycle again. > You wrote > For gluing the belly bars, I'd forget about clamps and pneumatic=20 > arrangements. Good old go-bars are fast and efficient and you can=20 > easily construct a gluing press that can be quickly dismantled when=20 > you're not using it. Some of the German makers have invested=20 > millions in fancy machinery for special tasks but there are cheap and=20 > efficient traditional ways of doing almost everything. All the=20 > finishing work on the bars is done with a hand plane and good=20 > pre-1914 chisels. > > WoW JD Have you used a go bar deck verses a fire hose press? I've=20 used both and find the go bar deck (I still have a very nice one)all though=20 possible and feasible with good results. However superior glue joints occur= =20 with the absolutely even pressure of air. Less glue applied to get glue=20 coverage in the joint and way less glue squeeze and clean up. Also the setu= p=20 time and teardown time is less.=20 Physically go bars are more demanding and more dangerous ,Crack split oh= =20 wow there is another rsoundboard dent to fix as the bar slides off . No more= =20 ribs sliding around when the first go bar presses to the rib. See what I=20 mean? > I'll write an article one day on sharpening knives, chisels and plane=20 > irons so that you can shave with then and tell you a story of how I=20 > was too clever by half when demonstrating these skills to an=20 > apprentice! J D > =20 J D I'd Love to see this in print. Always new tricks or old to= =20 sharpening. Best--Dale Erwin > JD >=20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/c8/d1/65/5d/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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