etd tunings

[Leslie W Bartlett]

This discussion about ETD's and who said whom to what, when, where, and
what flavor has vastly exceeded my needs. If it provides needed
entertainment, fine. But I was interested in the short opinions simply
stating it didn't seem possible. Thanks for those. I tend to trust others
much more quickly than myself.   The gentleman in question is a
gentleman, very skilled, very dedicated, a fine technician, opinionated,
as all talented people must be.   Mostly he deals with pretty good
isntruments.  I have very high regard for him, as do many other locals.  
thanks
les bartlett

On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 07:23:17 -0400 "Tom Servinsky" <tompiano@gate.net>
writes:
> Comments below
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: Billbrpt@AOL.COM 
>     To: pianotech@ptg.org 
>     Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:35 AM
>     Subject: Re: etd tunings
> 
> 
>     In a message dated 6/5/02 8:07:03 AM Central Daylight Time, 
> lesbart1@juno.com (Leslie W Bartlett) writes: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     If, on the one hand, this fellow is such a high falootin' 
> musically superior professional, what the heck is he doing trying to 
> tune a piano which is 1/2 step low?  That is a *seriously* 
> substandard state for a piano to be found in.  The first question 
> I'd be asking is *why* is it so low?  Someone mentioned that raising 
> the pitch 100 cents would add about a ton or so.  Actually, it is 
> more like 4 tons!  Who in his right mind could ever claim that he 
> just went in and *hot dogged* a piano up 100 cents and it stayed in 
> tune perfectly for an entire year?  Sheeesh! 
> 
>     I haven't seen one opinion yet that says this is possible.  The 
> consensus seem to be that this is a highly inflated claim. 
> 
>     Bill Bremmer RPT 
>     Madison, Wisconsin 
>     Click here: -=w w w . b i l l b r e m m e r . c o m =- 
>      
>     I'm with you on this one, Bill.  I think "perfectly in tune for 
> one year" is an extremely vague and confusing term to use with this 
> situation. Perfect to many tuners has different conotations. 
>     Sure if you could continually play Twinkle Twinkle Little Star 
> in the key of C and octaves and unisons remains somewhat  in the 
> ball park for a year I can see how some would classified that as 
> staying perfectly in tune. Those who do concert tunings and 
> understand stability, view the term perfect in a entirely different 
> category. In these situations the pianos are already stable but when 
> the slightess inflection of heat  or humidity change, a stable piano 
> can begin to drift.
>      The reality is (and regardless of any one 's technique) 
> physics, tension disbursement, and above all scale design rule in 
> extreme pitch raise situations. Once a tremendous amt. of load is 
> added to the board it is rediculous to assume that nothing in the 
> tension department is going to remain in absolute stable condition. 
> As a rule, it ain't going to happen. 
>     Tom Servninsky,RPT


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