So how do you explain this "tingling" sensation at the key ? Specifically, exactly when during the hammers travel from just at sting impact to checking does this happen, and what is the duration of the sensation ? What do you have to say about the fact Joe brings up that the key is not coupled to the hammer at the moment of string impact ? I agree that on some level or another one can feel the hammer hardness.... still... its problematic to explain. RicB antares wrote: >Hi Avery, > >I learned this in Berlin (Bechstein).. >The instructor there (a Japanese guy) suddenly asked me this "when you >strike this key, what do you feel" (instead of what do you hear!). >I felt a strong tingling sensation under my finger and at the same time I >noticed that that particular note sounded very good and strong. >He then asked me to "try other keys" and I found out that they were not all >the same in intensity. Some were weaker, some stronger and a few had no >tingling at all. >Very interesting aye? >He then instructed me to "make all tinglings the same" and afterwards I >noticed that almost all keys now had that funny vibrating sensation and >that >most keys were very strong sounding. >The next procedure was to even out the volume. > >Result? > >Madonna Madonna! >Un Miracolo! > > >friendly greetings >from > >Antares, > >Amsterdam, Holland > >"where music is, no harm can be" > >visit my website at : http://www.concertpianoservice.nl/ > > >> From: Avery Todd <avery@ev1.net> >> Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org >> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:17:33 -0500 >> To: pianotech@ptg.org >> Subject: Re: Feeling the Hammers when playing >> >> Hi Andre, >> >> Could you possibly expound on this a little? Thanks. >> >> Avery >> >> At 02:44 PM 06/30/02 +0200, you wrote: >>> When voicing a piano we must always feel vibrations in the key. >>> No vibes, tone nor strong enough. By feeling the differences between the >>> keys we have a second sense to aid us in voicing. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> friendly greetings >>> from >>> >>> Antares, >>> >>> Amsterdam, Holland >>> >>> "where music is, no harm can be" >>> >>> visit my website at : http://www.concertpianoservice.nl/ >>> >>> >>>> From: "Richard Brekne" <richard.brekne@grieg.uib.no> >>>> Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org >>>> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:36:06 +0200 >>>> To: "PTG" <pianotech@ptg.org> >>>> Subject: Re: Feeling the Hammers when playing >>>> >>>> Hi Patrick >>>> >>>> Say if you could remember the name of the instructor I would be very >>> glad to >>>> know who it was. >>>> >>>> I have no doubt that what we hear affects what we feel (or think we >>> feel) in a >>>> very big way... but I also wonder about whether or not we really do >>> physically >>>> feel the hardness of the hammers, and if so how and how is that >explained. >>>> Lots >>>> of ideas presented but mostly in the form of beponderments. >>>> >>>> Bill Ballard said something about how difficult it would be to find out >>>> anything definant... perhaps this is true but on the other hand it >>> would seem >>>> easy enough to ascertain whether or not pianists (or anyone else for >that >>>> matter) can indeed sense hammer hardness at the key or not. >>>> >>>> Would seem an interesting and kind of an important point to clear up >really >>>> when it comes down to it. >>>> >>>> Anyways, if you remember his name let me know >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> >>>> RicB >>>> >>>> >>>> Patrick C Poulson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello All: I remember a discussion in a convention voicing class >about the >>>>> phenomenon of "psychoacoustics." The contention of the teacher, whose >>> name >>>>> escapes me at the moment, is that what we hear influences what we >think we >>>>> are feeling as we play the piano. A very bright piano will be >>> perceived by >>>>> many as being "easier" to play, because it seems louder and therefore >>>>> doesn't require as much effort from the pianist. Vice versa for a >very >>>>> mellow piano, where the pianist may have to play harder to get the >>> piano to >>>>> project. In both cases the pianist is not actually feeling the hammer >>>>> itself, but is reacting to the kind of tone the piano is producing >and is >>>>> automatically and perhaps unconsciously adjusting his or her playing >to >>>>> compensate for what the instrument is not giving. >>>>> Patrick Poulson, RPT >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard Brekne >>>> RPT NPTF >>>> Griegakadamiet UiB >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Richard Brekne RPT NPTF Griegakadamiet UiB
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