"Greasy New Chain Hoists' Stuff": special to Ron Nossaman

[Farrell]

"Got a better idea?"

Yes. Don't generate the waste in the first place!

Terry Farrell
  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: "Greasy New Chain Hoists' Stuff": special to Ron Nossaman


> True. But the EPA will tell you to drive it to a lined
> landfill ( 100 miles away ) which WILL eventually
> leak, contaminating the groundwater. And I think this
> is FAR, FAR worse! I AM very careful that NONE of it
> touches the ground, and if I had a large quantity that
> would not spread safely over the cardboard, I would
> take it to the big, concrete, abandoned stock-car
> racetrack around the corner on a very hot, sunny day,
> spread it out on the concrete and watch it evaporate
> in about a minute!!! Got a better idea? I'd like to
> hear it. Fortunately, I do very little of this sort of
> work anymore.
>     But I do recommend to all who strip pianos, and
> don't have a dedicated stripping table, to place the
> big sheets of cardboard under your stripping and then
> let the solvent evaporate thoroughly from the
> resulting goop. Have a dry place to stick it quickly
> if rain comes, and you will in short order have
> nothing but old fashioned varnish 
> ( tree sap ) and cardboard to throw in the dumpster.
>      Thump
> 
> 
> --- Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > My experience would suggest that EPA or local
> > environmental agencies might not look too favorably
> > upon such a disposal method. Got a bermed
> > containment area underneath? Might be best to do
> > this at midnight.
> > 
> > Terry Farrell
> >   
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 6:07 PM
> > Subject: "Greasy New Chain Hoists' Stuff": special
> > to Ron Nossaman
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi,Ron,
> > >     I appreciate your environmental sensitivity,
> > and
> > > the car wash might be a better idea. But I only
> > needed
> > > 2 gallons of mineral spirits to cover the hoist,
> > > turning it, which I later used for auto parts
> > cleaning
> > > until it was diminished in quantity and really
> > nasty.
> > > Then I poured it, as I do with all contaminated
> > > solvents, onto several layers of gigantic pieces
> > of
> > > cardboard, with a tarp underneath ( cardboard from
> > > furniture stores-couch boxes and such ) out back
> > in
> > > the sunshine, which allows the solvent to
> > evaporate.
> > >     There is much we do in this business which is
> > > environmentally  "suspect", but I feel that it is
> > far
> > > better that solvents evaporate, as opposed to
> > > landfilling, in which case they can cause much
> > worse
> > > mischief in the form of groundwater
> > coinatmination.
> > >      Cheers,
> > >      Thump
> > > P.S.: I think that the BEST way to clean a new
> > chain
> > > hoist, actually, would be to blast it with a
> > couple of
> > > cans of brake parts cleaner. (wearing a mask!)
> > > 
> > > --- Tom Driscoll <tomtuner@attbi.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
> > > > [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
> > > > Behalf Of gordon stelter
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:35 PM
> > > > To: Pianotech
> > > > Subject: Re: Help! Setting up a new shop
> > > > 
> > > > I cackle with glee over my chain hoist, too. 
> > But it
> > > > was coated with some really gross, smelly,
> > revolting
> > > > grease when I bought it, so I soaked it for a
> > couple
> > > > of days in a five gallon bucket full of mineral
> > > > spirits. Still works fine. Much less nasty!
> > > >      Thump
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > >Gordon,
> > > > Whew! People have been known to die from that
> > > > grease.I think its called
> > > > Fonzarelli syndrome. 
> > > > Tom Driscoll
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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