Woah, reign in there, Terry (Also Ron & Clyde). Your observations are keen and accurate. But I forgot to mention that this old WWII chapel has no electrical outlets in the chapel area. They are going to have to get an electrician out there before we activate the DC. Meanwhile they wanted the piano tuned for Easter and then I'll go back there in a month or two and re-tune. Your tax dollars at work! Alan -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf Of Farrell Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:05 AM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Language You tuned a piano and installed a DC system on the same day? How long did that tuning last? Terry Farrell ----- Original Message ----- From: <tune4u@earthlink.net> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:04 AM Subject: RE: Language > Curious you should post this. > > I tuned a piano yesterday that is in a chapel built for soldiers training > for WWII (part of a museum tour, WWII barracks, tanks, etc. at Fort Wood) > anyway there is no attic in this building just the roof itself between the > congregation and the sky. Well, I showed up to tune and ended up running all > over to find the guy who was supposed to let me in--he had the wrong date. > There were two roofers up there working. They did speak English but didn't > have a building key and didn't know anything about me coming to tune the > piano, etc. > > Then I got in, installed a Dampp-Chaser and tuned ... all to the constant > rat-a-tat tap bang bang-a-bang BANG of two guys with hammers 20 feet over my > head. > > Seems the Army wanted the roof fixed and the piano tuned all in time for a > special Easter service in this chapel. > > As you said, might as well get all the noisy things done at the same time! > > Alan Barnard > Salem, MO > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On > Behalf Of Susan Kline > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 9:16 PM > To: Pianotech > Subject: Re: Language > > > At 08:45 PM 3/16/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >Susan, I don't understand some of your terminology here, and I thought I'd > >learned to speak fairly fluent Tunese: > > Probably my fault -- laziness. > > > >There are as many tests as one feels like pursuing, but > >in everyday work I tend to focus on three: the tenth test > >in the middle range, but only if the timbre of the octave > >isn't pleasing me; the sixth test in the bass, ditto, and > >I temper fourths, fifths and octaves all the way to the > >top and most of the way to the bottom. Octaves the straightest, > >then a little curl to the fifths and a little bit bigger curl > >to the fourths, but basically making all of the perfect > >intervals (4, 5, 8) as clear as possible. > > > >A. "tenth test" 10ths against 3rds? running 10ths? both? > > Octave test, seeing if the upper and lower notes of the octave > beat equally against a note a major third below the lower note. > I don't always insist that they beat exactly the same -- the > upper note can beat a little faster. But I like for all the > octaves to have about the same difference. > > > >B. "sixth test ... bass" major 6th/minor 3rd? running 6ths? > > Minor third/major 6th, within the octave, to check for the bass > octave size. I use running almost everything when checking the > temperament, but usually not later on. If the deep bass is really > puzzling me, I'll sometimes run consecutive (what is it? 15ths?) > octave+minor sevenths. > > > > >C. "I temper fourths ..." not sure what you mean here ... extending the > >temperament into bass, treble? > > Tune octaves by ear; check fifths, check fourths. Make sure none are > obnoxious, or if obnoxious, make sure that all three intervals are > obnoxious in the same pattern: octaves best, fifths next best, fourths > least best -- <grin> -- but nothing wonderful at the expense of > something else becoming godawful. I do this all the way to C88, > and down toward the low octave as long as the clarity of the bass allows. > > > >D. "Octaves the straightest" purest 6:3s ?? > > not so much checking one test (6-3's) against another (2-1, or 4-2) ... > purely aural, by timbre. > > > >E. "a little curl to the fifths ... little bigger curl to the fourths" ya > >really got me here ... ??? > > Well, you know ... a curl is a slow, tired little beat ... a > "miao" > > > >F. "perfect intervals ... as clear as possible" clear=pure? > > Why, sure, except that thirds and sixths and all that aren't > pure. Perfect intervals (as opposed to major/minor intervals) > are fifths, fourths, octaves, and unisons. > > > >Appreciate a little comment, thanks, > > > >Alan Barnard > >Salem, MO > > No problemo .. well, I hope, anyway. > > Susan > > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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