DC & Tune was, accidentally, RE: Language

Farrell mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:16:09 -0400


Ok. You're off the hook for now........ but be careful!

Terry Farrell
  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <tune4u@earthlink.net>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:09 PM
Subject: DC & Tune was, accidentally, RE: Language


> Woah, reign in there, Terry (Also Ron & Clyde). Your observations are keen
> and accurate. But I forgot to mention that this old WWII chapel has no
> electrical outlets in the chapel area. They are going to have to get an
> electrician out there before we activate the DC. Meanwhile they wanted the
> piano tuned for Easter and then I'll go back there in a month or two and
> re-tune. Your tax dollars at work!
> 
> Alan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
> Behalf Of Farrell
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:05 AM
> To: Pianotech
> Subject: Re: Language
> 
> 
> You tuned a piano and installed a DC system on the same day? How long did
> that tuning last?
> 
> Terry Farrell
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <tune4u@earthlink.net>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:04 AM
> Subject: RE: Language
> 
> 
> > Curious you should post this.
> >
> > I tuned a piano yesterday that is in a chapel built for soldiers training
> > for WWII (part of a museum tour, WWII barracks, tanks, etc. at Fort Wood)
> > anyway there is no attic in this building just the roof itself between the
> > congregation and the sky. Well, I showed up to tune and ended up running
> all
> > over to find the guy who was supposed to let me in--he had the wrong date.
> > There were two roofers up there working. They did speak English but didn't
> > have a building key and didn't know anything about me coming to tune the
> > piano, etc.
> >
> > Then I got in, installed a Dampp-Chaser and tuned ... all to the constant
> > rat-a-tat tap bang bang-a-bang BANG of two guys with hammers 20 feet over
> my
> > head.
> >
> > Seems the Army wanted the roof fixed and the piano tuned all in time for a
> > special Easter service in this chapel.
> >
> > As you said, might as well get all the noisy things done at the same time!
> >
> > Alan Barnard
> > Salem, MO
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
> > Behalf Of Susan Kline
> > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 9:16 PM
> > To: Pianotech
> > Subject: Re: Language
> >
> >
> > At 08:45 PM 3/16/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> > >Susan, I don't understand some of your terminology here, and I thought
> I'd
> > >learned to speak fairly fluent Tunese:
> >
> > Probably my fault -- laziness.
> >
> >
> > >There are as many tests as one feels like pursuing, but
> > >in everyday work I tend to focus on three: the tenth test
> > >in the middle range, but only if the timbre of the octave
> > >isn't pleasing me; the sixth test in the bass, ditto, and
> > >I temper fourths, fifths and octaves all the way to the
> > >top and most of the way to the bottom. Octaves the straightest,
> > >then a little curl to the fifths and a little bit bigger curl
> > >to the fourths, but basically making all of the perfect
> > >intervals (4, 5, 8) as clear as possible.
> > >
> > >A. "tenth test" 10ths against 3rds? running 10ths? both?
> >
> > Octave test, seeing if the upper and lower notes of the octave
> > beat equally against a note a major third below the lower note.
> > I don't always insist that they beat exactly the same -- the
> > upper note can beat a little faster. But I like for all the
> > octaves to have about the same difference.
> >
> >
> > >B. "sixth test ... bass" major 6th/minor 3rd? running 6ths?
> >
> > Minor third/major 6th, within the octave, to check for the bass
> > octave size. I use running almost everything when checking the
> > temperament, but usually not later on. If the deep bass is really
> > puzzling me, I'll sometimes run consecutive (what is it? 15ths?)
> > octave+minor sevenths.
> >
> >
> >
> > >C. "I temper fourths ..." not sure what you mean here ... extending the
> > >temperament into bass, treble?
> >
> > Tune octaves by ear; check fifths, check fourths. Make sure none are
> > obnoxious, or if obnoxious, make sure that all three intervals are
> > obnoxious in the same pattern: octaves best, fifths next best, fourths
> > least best -- <grin> -- but nothing wonderful at the expense of
> > something else becoming godawful. I do this all the way to C88,
> > and down toward the low octave as long as the clarity of the bass allows.
> >
> >
> > >D. "Octaves the straightest" purest 6:3s ??
> >
> > not so much checking one test (6-3's) against another (2-1, or 4-2) ...
> > purely aural, by timbre.
> >
> >
> > >E. "a little curl to the fifths ... little bigger curl to the fourths"
> ya
> > >really got me here ... ???
> >
> > Well, you know ... a curl is a slow, tired little beat ... a
> > "miao"
> >
> >
> > >F. "perfect intervals ... as clear as possible" clear=pure?
> >
> > Why, sure, except that thirds and sixths and all that aren't
> > pure. Perfect intervals (as opposed to major/minor intervals)
> > are fifths, fourths, octaves, and unisons.
> >
> >
> > >Appreciate a little comment, thanks,
> > >
> > >Alan Barnard
> > >Salem, MO
> >
> > No problemo .. well, I hope, anyway.
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >
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