Refinishing - Stripping & Stain Uneveness

[pianolac]

List,
Gordon's procedure works well enough using solvent based paste wood filler.
This stuff dries slow enough to allow its removal by rubbing it with burlap
or some similar material.

But pity the poor soul who misses a spot!  It will show up as a blotch.
Missing is easy to do, because the filler is usually similar in color to the
background stain.  Rubbing that smelly stuff off is no fun, and you have
wait at least 24 hours before topcoating.

If you wanna go with a more efficient, less toxic system, you could try
PianoLac.  The Cream Pore Filler, as well as everything else PianoLac, is
waterborne, and stays open just long enough to spatula on.  It dries in 30
minutes, ready to sand.  Hard to miss a spot when sanding, especially since
you stain after filling.  It doesn't shrink or bleed its color, and can be
sealed immediately.  It delineates the grain with tremendous clarity.

Arthur Grudko
StarHawk Labs
www.pianolac.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: Refinishing - Stripping & Stain Uneveness


> You should apply the stain first, then a thin sealer
> coat of finish, and then sand off raised whiskers...
> LIGHTLY!!!!.( 320 grit wet or dry ) And THEN apply the
> paste wood filler! AND THEN topcoat.  This schedule
> will provide a MUCH, MUCH cleaner looking piano!!!
>      Thump
>
> --- Greg Newell <gnewell@ameritech.net> wrote:
> > Terry,
> >          Rockler Woodworking and Hardware has a
> > product called Wunderfil
> > which is just your basic wood paste filler. I've not
> > been too crazy about
> > it for it's tendency to lift out ( minor amounts)
> > when you are brushing on
> > the water based die and or stain. I'm think9ing of
> > switching to alcohol
> > based so that the filler stays put when I re-wet
> > with the die or stain.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 08:52 AM 4/27/2003, you wrote:
> >
> > >Hi Greg. What are you filling grain with? I have
> > always used
> > >marine-oriented filler/stain in the past. I am
> > interested in going
> > >water-based just to cut down the fumes.
> > >
> > >Terry Farrell
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Greg Newell" <gnewell@ameritech.net>
> > >To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > >Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 3:57 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Refinishing - Stripping & Stain
> > Uneveness
> > >
> > >
> > > > Terry,
> > > >          You can stain, sure, but start with an
> > anneline or a water based
> > > > dye first. That will help make the color much
> > more even.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 03:23 PM 4/26/2003, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Refinishing question. I started stripping a
> > piano - the typical reddish
> > > > >stained mahogany. The finish was original. I
> > have always used chemical
> > > > >strippers before but I am trying scraping this
> > time. The scraping
> > > seems to
> > > > >go easy and well, except that you end up with
> > some areas of stain largely
> > > > >removed and some areas remaining, resulting in
> > a blotchy appearance. I
> > > > >have sanded, and that helps a little, but it is
> > still blotchy and sanding
> > > > >is tough because the sandpaper just loads up in
> > three seconds flat.
> > > > >
> > > > >My guess is that when I re-stain (will be going
> > with a similar color)
> > > some
> > > > >blotchyness will remain. Using chemical
> > strippers in the past has yielded
> > > > >fairly even-colored wood to work with - so I
> > don't really know what will
> > > > >happen if the blotchy color is stained. Anyone
> > with any experience with
> > > > >this? Recommendations? Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >Terry Farrell
> > > > >
> > > > >_______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > > > Greg Newell
> > > > mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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