Hi Ron, Well said! To carry what you said to the neurobiological realm, the relative timing of the pianist's movements, with relation to the orchestra, is simply a matter of acoustic feedback. The cerebellum's motor programs are time-shifted forward or backward until the beats align (see other post). I think that's why it usually takes a few bars for an orchestra to come together completely. Peace, Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Nossaman" <RNossaman@cox.net> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Key Leads and Inertia > > >And now, allow me, if you will, to toss out a little side issue here: > >depending on the level of power desired by the performer, i.e., pppp to ffff > >or whatever, there is a considerable variation in the amount of time delay > >between the moment the key is initially struck and the moment the hammer > >impacts the string. This time delay can amount to some several milliseconds > >and it is not shared by most other orchestral instruments. Now, considering > >that the human brain only has so much computing power and speed and the > >pianist is generally exceeding that processing speed during fast orchestral > >passages, what is the mechanism by which that performer compensates for this > >varying and complex time lag so that the sound of the piano comes out just > >right with the rest of the orchestra? > > > >Del > > > Simple. (S)He doesn't, depending on where you listen from. > > Ok, ok - In the real world, where several milliseconds of "blend" from the > instruments in the orchestra don't count when you're closer to one than the > other, the adjustment mechanism is built into our operating systems. It > works better in some than in others, but it's a built in Bios function. We > continually re-calibrate our muscular responses to perceived resistance and > timing. It's how we learned to work our bodies in the first place. How hard > do we push off to jump that puddle? If we keep walking at the present rate, > will that approaching bus run us down? We do this all day every day, in > tens of thousands of repetitions until we start getting pretty good at not > walking into trees, or picking up that light box without whacking ourselves > in the forehead with it. It's deep in our primitive core, and helped keep > us from being eaten as we evolved into whatever it is we now are - other > than not yet entirely eaten. Part of what a musician is doing when (s)he > warms up is, consciously or not, re-calibrating muscle response as well as > checking out the capabilities of the instrument. Swinging the bat. (S)He's > updating an internal template of input force and response offsets for that > particular instrument. Like calibrating a Disklavier, only using meat > instead of silicon. The internal templates come in different resolutions, > or levels of granularity. A less accomplished pianist may be aware that > F#-2 hangs up, the bass is typically heavy, and the treble is dead. A > proficient pianist will have a much more extensive and detailed internal > map of the piano, with timing, repetition, touch, voicing, and at least > several indefinable characteristics and requirements for each and every > key, as well as overall concerns. The low level pianist's template is a 6" > x 8" chalkboard with 2" lettering, while the super pianist's template is > fractal - a Mandelbrot set. Some conscious, some limbic. During play, the > musician's internal subroutines retrieve data from the freshly calibrated > array, re-calibrate on the fly as new modifying circumstances are > discovered, and adjust the muscle response and timing accordingly. The > music goes round and round... > > And it comes out here. > > Of course, the first time you step up to a curb in a new pair of shoes with > 1.2mm thicker soles than those they replaced, you'll stumble. The second > time, you'll be fine. > > Ron N > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >
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