Redesigning Grotrian 140

Roger Jolly roger.j@sasktel.net
Thu, 14 Aug 2003 02:08:14 -0000


Hi Andrew,
                  I may be able to help you ,  this new type of bass  
string significantly lowers the bridge impedence.  The photo is of a  
pre production proto type.
Contact me off list.
Regards Roger


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0686_IMG.JPG

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> At 11:07 AM 8/13/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>
> All you redesigning types, have I got a deal for you!
>
> Check this little baby out.  140 cm, for those metrically challenged  
> like myself, that comes to 4 ' 7".  The first 6 strings on the bass  
> bridge are all 36 3/8" long and the first is almost .500" in  
> diameter.  The back scale is virtually nil for most of the bass bridge  
> but especially the first dozen strings, the tie comes to within 1/2"  
> of the bridge.  There is also significant bass bridge cantilever.  The  
> bass string fan covers almost the entire tenor section.  There are 6  
> wound bi-chords on the tenor bridge the end of which is also  
> cantilevered.  The piano has all of the tonal characteristics and  
> problems one would expect from such a design.
>
> The piano is receiving a new board, pinblock, and finish.  The action  
> work is being done by someone else.
>
> Now some of my thoughts:
>
> There is some room for the bass bridge to move closer to the front of  
> the piano, about 3/4".  The bridge cap is fairly wide.  I was  
> wondering about the following cures:  1) have bass strings made with a  
> shorter/tighter tie 2) narrow the bridge cap about 1/8", 3) float the  
> sound board behind the bass bridge.  My goals here would be to free up  
> the bass bridge and soundboard as much as possible from the ultra  
> short back scale.  I would also hope to be able to eliminate the  
> cantilever on the bass bridge.  I worry though about how close the  
> bridge is to the edge of the soundboard, but floating the board could  
> help here.
>
> Regarding the tenor bridge I was thinking about using a separate  
> bridge for the wound strings and would appreciate any thoughts about  
> impedance issues I may face with the new tenor bridge moved forward of  
> the treble string bridge.
>
> Obviously the stringing scale will have to be redone as well.
>
> Overall this is a very well built piano as one would expect from this  
> maker.  It is just so tiny that it has a lot of performance  
> compromises.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Andrew Remillard
> ANRPiano.com
> ANR Piano Service
> 2417 Maple Ave
> Downers Grove, IL  60515
> 630-852-5058
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