Ron Nossaman wrote: > >Its a > >question of degrees... and as somebody (I wont get into who... grin) pointed > >out a couple years back in another soundboard discussion, with something about > >a mosquito colliding with a Concord.... relative to what deflects what.... > >every little bit counts... > > An aircraft carrier, not the Concord, and if you want relativity, pay > attention this time and I'll try again. These figures are approximate, and > I'm not interested in all the details of what might happen on the molecular > level. Just in case. Ron, all due respect (and I do not mean that lightly or friviously) I paid attention last time and carried on quite nicely enough thank you. And while this time around, I dont have the spare time to recalculate and re-perspectate your example data below, I have experienced often enough from you to know your numbers games are more correct then not, but far from flawless. Be that as it may... the numbers of this particular round of parcheesee are not really important in the given context. Only the phsyical fact that there is or is not measureble difference in how crown survives under pressure with or without the spider. Assuming there is some small measureable difference, and certainly not to overstate its significance, the fact that said difference is very small can not detract from whether or not it exists and therefore has some small effect on the whole. You made very much that same kind of point with your aircraft carrier in a removed thread a couple years back. Numbers are only one side of things. What we can observe is the another. An what we conclude yet another again. And none of this goes to overstate, understate, or evaluate at all the overall significance of the spiders effect. > > Arguably, and I know that if it is, you will, the "resonator" might just > actually help to support the soundboard crown until enough strings are > installed for the bearing to overpower the compressibility of the wood, > but it's all over long before it's chipped up to pitch. This reasoning just doesnt add up. If the spider has some small supporting effect, regardless of how small, AND if the panel is not just pushed flat by however much combined compression there is on the edges of the soundboard assembly, then that very small effect is still in effect.... crushed end fibers or not. As long as crown exists, any eventual degree of support found will still be in effect. However so small. Tho I will aggree that most likely the net positive affect is probably quite negligble... their claim of soundboard support remains valid as long as there is even the slightest crown support provided. Quibbling perhaps... but just so. I dont like simply overlooking such things so easily.... makes for mistakes like burying strings into bridges with the quick use (or misuse) of a few numbers if you get my meaning. > Ron N RicB -- Richard Brekne RPT, N.P.T.F. UiB, Bergen, Norway mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html http://www.hf.uib.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html
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