pedal lyre screws are obsolete

[Michael Spalding]

John,

Ed Schadler:   973-744-6194

Former APSCO bushing cloth customers were contacted by Ed Schadler last
month offering a special deal on medium weight cloth.   I've inquired about
several APSCO products at Schaff, and have been told "not in stock at this
time".   In the absence of the long-awaited Schaff/APSCO combined catalog,
one wonders just how much of the APSCO business belongs to Schaff, and how
much was retained by Mr. Schadler.

Mike


> [Original Message]
> From: John Ross <jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca>
> To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Date: 12/21/2003 9:20:13 AM
> Subject: Re: pedal lyre screws are obsolete
>
> I asked Schaff if they were going to carry the selection of screws, that
> were in the APSCO catalogue.
> They told me that Mr. Schadler, had kept the screw part of the business.
> They gave me a telephone number, which I have lost. If anyone has it would
> they please post it to the list.
> Regards,
> John M. Ross
> Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
> jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Nereson" <davner@kaosol.net>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: pedal lyre screws are obsolete
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <Alpha88x@aol.com>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 9:21 PM
> > Subject: pedal lyre screws are obsolete
> >
> >
> > > greetings,
> >  >. . . . . .Does anyone know where I can obtain such obsolete fastners?
> Someone at a
> > > hardware store mentioned a place named Constantine's in New York. Has
> anyone
> > > heard of this place? The national 1-800 directory assistance has no
> phone number
> > > on them and typing in www.constantine results in web page under
> construction
> > > message, so I cannot even be sure if this is the right constantine
> company.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Julia Gottschall
> > > piano rookie,
> > > Reading, PA
> >
> >     On page 134 of the Schaff catalog, they list big screws ranging from
> #18 to #24.  The price list doesn't say "discontinued", so maybe they're
> still available.  They're not quite obsolete -- just getting harder to
find.
> >     Is there any kind of surplus tool and commodity place around there
-- 
> you know, scrap or surplus industrial stuff?  If not, I would follow the
> suggestion of using lag screws.  Yes, do junk at least one old upright
next
> time you have a line on one.  Or a grand, but they don't usually have as
> many long screws as uprights.  I've been known to find one in an alley and
> stop right then and there and take out as many screws as I can (power
> screwdriver is always in the car).  There's some danger if the tension has
> not been let down, however.
> >     Another possible source is a piano dealer that gets pianos such as
> Yamahas that come in crates -- there are several packing and bracing
blocks
> that are fastened with long screws and sometimes these just get tossed.
> Ask them if you could have a few of the screws.
> >     Albert Constantine Jr.  wrote "Know Your Woods"  and "Home Course of
> Instruction in Wood Finishing", and had courses on veneering, etc., and
sold
> woods and wood finishing supplies at Albert Constantine & Son, Inc., 2050
> Eastchester Rd., New York, NY.  But all the publications I have are quite
> old (1950's), so that place may no longer exist.  I don't know if he's
still
> living.  But I think I remember getting a Constantine catalog in the mail
> within the last few years.
> >     His father, Albert Sr. (1862-1948) was extremely knowledgeable of
> woods and his great grandfather, Thomas Constantine, was a friend and
> neighbor of Duncan Phyfe, the famous cabinetmaker.
> >     If plugging the holes and using lag screws doesn't work for some
> reason, you can drill all the way up through the keybed, recess tee-nuts
> into the holes, and use machine bolts to fasten the lyre on.
> >     --David Nereson, RPT
> >
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