pedal lyre screws are obsolete

[David Ilvedson]

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You don't need to recess much for the t-nut as it will pull into=
 the keybed when synched up with nut.  I just scrape some keybed=
 material away with a knife or whatever and have no problems. =
 This is a great way to take care of the stripped screws in=
 pedals.  If you carry these things in your vehicle, i.e.=
 different length bolts, drill/bits,  you can do the job in 15 to=
 30 minutes.  

David Ilvedson



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From: Mike Bratcher <MBratPianos@indy.rr.com>
To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
Received: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 12:48:46 -0500
Subject: Re: pedal lyre screws are obsolete

"...Next, drill out the holes where the screws were, also get a=
 spade drill bit the size of the outside diameter of the "T"=
 nuts, and make a cutting edge on the opposite side of the bit=
 from the edge. That way you can use it to
countersink the place to put the "T" nut in the key bed and be=
 out of the
way of the keyframe...."
 
I don't think this will work.  You will need to get a right angle=
 drill attachment to fit between the pinblock and the keybed. =
 I've done this before and I had to get a forsner bit and cut the=
 shank off to a nub, and it was still tight.
 
Mike Bratcher
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kenneth.gerler" <kenneth.gerler@prodigy.net>
To: <Alpha88x@aol.com>; "PTG Forum" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: pedal lyre screws are obsolete


> Julia,
> When I ran into this problem, I went to the hardware store and=
 bought some
> bolts(after measuring the length needed to go through both the=
 lyre and the
> keybed) and "T" nuts (bolts the same diameter as the old wood=
 screws). Next,
> drill out the holes where the screws were, also get a spade=
 drill bit the
> size of the outside diameter of the "T" nuts, and make a=
 cutting edge on the
> opposite side of the bit from the edge. That way you can use it=
 to
> countersink the place to put the "T" nut in the key bed and be=
 out of the
> way of the keyframe. Slip the bit into the hole (you previously=
 drilled)
> from the top of the keybed, attach you drill to the bit hanging=
 down from
> the keybed and drill a depth that will allow the "T" nut to=
 clear the
> keyframe when it is reinserted. This repair will make the lyre=
 like a lot of
> the new pianos being produced today and should last the=
 lifetime of the
> piano.
> 
> Ken Gerler
> ----------------------------
> originial message
> 
> greetings,
> 
>             I recently took on a job for a small church with a=
 Hazelton
> Brothers 6' grand that the pedal lyre just fell off, because=
 the lyre sticks
> came
> out at one unknown time a long time ago and they kept using the=
 piano,
> pedals
> and all. This caused the pedal lyre to "swing in the breeze"=
 with use and as
> a
> consequence, the whole pedal lyre fell off because the screws=
 were worked
> loose from use.
> 
>              Removing the remaining 2, (of 4)  5/16" diameter x=
 2 3/4" long
> screws resulted in a search for replacements only to find they=
 are no longer
> made. Does anyone know where I can obtain such obsolete=
 fastners? Someone at
> a
> hardware store mentioned a place named Constantine's in New=
 York. Has anyone
> heard of this place? The national 1-800 directory assistance=
 has no phone
> number
> on them and typing in www.constantine results in web page under=
 construction
> message, so I cannot even be sure if this is the right=
 constantine company.
> 
> thanks,
> Julia Gottschall
> piano rookie,
> Reading, PA
> 
> 
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