Isaac said: "I guess that what Joe mean with "too much fat" is that the glue have a too high surface tension, that does not allow it to penetrate well enough (moist) the parts. The same effect occur when using urea." Isaac, Not quite what I meant. There are some glues that have actual Fat Solids. These Fat Solids do not render down like the sinue, flesh and bone. It makes the glue more flexible, for a longer time, but is not a strong as sinue/flesh glue. All glues have some percentage of fat solids in them, except the most refined. The 3X-Chrome glue, I'm constantly referring to is one of those with any appreciable amount, therefore it is quite strong. (Almost too strong, as it gets very brittle if not use correctly.) A couple of "primers" are: 1. "Adheseives and Glues" by Robert S. Miller of Franklin Glues, copyright date: 1980 2. "Home and Workshop Guide to Glues and Adhesives" by George Daniels, (Popular Science Skill Book), Copyrighte date: 1979 Also, if you want a full picture of all of the variable types of Hide Glues, contact Milligan & Higgins, Johnstown, NY. Talk to Jay. That is the source of the 3X-Chrome glue that I have. He sent me several samples of other grades/types of hide glue some were very good, as well. I hope this clarifies a few things regarding Hide Glue. It's still the oldest glue and IMO the best for pianos regarding strength and workability. It does take getting used to, but well worth the effort. Best Regards Joe Garrett, RPT, (Oregon) Captain, Tool Police Squares Are I
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