((( ask me how I know ))) Pleases me to see there are other responsible techs. who make mistakes. I use a glue made here in Canada. It's a cabinet makers glue and gives plenty of time to make adjustments of alignment if you need to, but sets up pretty fast, so don't try to make more than one, and make sure your bore or whatever, is good to start with.( Also, ask me how I know about that.) Always tickles my funny bone to hear guys make that remark ( ask me how I know ). It's a self admonishing remark that tells me we're dealing with a real person, and someone who doesn't mind admitting that occasionally mistakes are made. Often wonder what % our mistakes would add up to, compared to all the good work we do. Betcha, the % is very small, so we shouldn't defend ourselves too much. Best of the season to ya'll from us here in the cold north of Canada, which by the way, isn't that cold this year, not yet . Carl / Winnipeg. Erwinspiano@aol.com wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Glue > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:43:51 EST > From: Erwinspiano@aol.com > To: dm.porritt@verizon.net > > In a message dated 11/27/2003 8:10:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, dm.porritt@verizon.net writes: > > OK, I know I'll get flamed by some but I have a brand new flame suit so I'm safe. > > Where can I find some good glue for hammers? I'm tired of using hot hide glue. It's fussy! If you use it straight it jells before you get the hammer in its final position. If you use to much additive it is weak. It gets moldy between uses. I still get loose hammer heads even when doing it right. As far as I can tell none of the current factories use hide glue for hammers and I don't find loose hammer heads on them. I know Andre has some glue listed on his web site, but it's not available here. > > Suggestions-dave > > Dave > Hey man no flame suit required. I can totally relate to your frustration. Even when the hot glue works well to me there isn't enough working time & if you twist it much after it jells well there goes the joint. Yellow glue tends to pull hammers out of line as it dries & its working time is too fast for me & if you need to tweak a hammer too much as its getting set up you'll end up damaging your center pin fit. Ask me how I know. > I switched to using fresh cold hide glue years ago & never looked back. There is plenty of working time to get things straight& it's very strong. & Since it doesn't set as fast as hot hide glue it gives you plenty of fudge time to check for straightening hammers without center pin damage or challenging your spirituality. It fills gaps to a point as well. If you need to pull it off use a heat gun & hammer puller, no sweat. > The secret to using any of the glues mentioned is an accurate hammer bore job & a bore size that doesn't fight the glue drying propertiesof the chosen glue. I personally hate fighting too tight of a bore job. It's always problematic. Ask me how..... > Dale > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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